Posted on 09/29/2007 3:35:01 PM PDT by NYer
Please God, do not remove Your Hand of Grace and Protection that You have given to America.
I’m glad I’m not related to people who mix up love and respect with worship. God created and it was good, ALL of his creation is good.
We'll take your word for it.
From your posts, it's not at all obvioius.
Colossians 2:18 Let no man beguile you of your reward in a voluntary humility and worshipping of angels, intruding into those things which he hath not seen, vainly puffed up by his fleshly mind,
Hebrews 1:4
Being made so much better than the angels, as he hath by inheritance obtained a more excellent name than they.
1:5 For unto which of the angels said he at any time, Thou art my Son, this day have I begotten thee? And again, I will be to him a Father, and he shall be to me a Son?
I'm delighted.
People conveniently forget God sends out other angels, too...
"He cast upon them the fierceness of his anger, wrath, and indignation, and trouble, by sending evil angels among them." -- Psalm 78:49
And I'm denying the egregious error in this sentence...
"There are hundreds of references in the Sacred Scriptures (Old and New Testaments) to these special beings, created by God as cooperators in the work of salvation."
Neither angels, nor Mary, nor priests who are wrongly tagged as "another Christ," are "cooperators in the work of salvation."
Salvation is the work of Jesus Christ on the cross alone, 100%.
Intermediary. Another angel also has a name, or should I say he has many & he should be rightfully put down as an obstacle between man & God, a big one.
How did the work of our salvation begin? Through the message of an angel, of course!
Did it begin with the message or did it begin with that which was contained in the message? Was Gabriel bringing news of something he was going to do or was he bringing news of something God was going to do?
If there were no other references to angels in all of Scripture, this event by itself should clue you in to their importance.
An announcement of an event is of far less importance than the event itself.
It was an angelic messenger that announced God's favor to man in the form of his Incarnate Son.
Is the message the messenger? If man hadn't screwed up so bad in the first place, by taking the word of an angel over the word of the Lord...
That's because you need to go to the major link - "Read More".
I believe it is quite a stretch for the Bishop to say: "Scripture says we are given an angel as a guardian to watch over us and guide us." I wish it were true, but we have no way of knowing.
That each person has a guardian angel, is not dogma. However, based on the Scripture, that angels accompany us through life. You can't see thoughts but you know people have them; does that mean they don't exist?
Duh, thanks, I was in a hurry this morning, on my way to worship.
That each person has a guardian angel, is not dogma.
Here is what I read at www.catholic.org:
The doctrine of angels is part of the Church's tradition...The existence of Guardian Angels, is, hence a dogma of the Christian faith: this being so, what ought not our respect be for that sure and holy intelligence that is ever present at our side...
Prayer to Our Holy Guardian Angels
Heavenly Father, Your infinite love for us has chosen a blessed angel in heaven and appointed him our guide during this earthly pilgrimage. Accept our thanks for so great ablessing. Grant that we may experience the assistance of our holy protector in all our necessities. And you, holy, loving angel and guide, watch over us with all the tenderness of your angelic heart. Keep us always on the way that leads to heaven, and cease not to pray for us until we have attained our final destiny, eternal salvation. Then we shall love you for all eternity. We shall praise and glorify you unceasingly for all the good you have done for us while here on earth. Especially be a faithful and watchful protector of our children. Take our place, and supply what may be wanting to us through human frailty, short-sightedness, or sinful neglect. Lighten, O you perfect servants of God, our heavy task. Guide our children, that they may become like unto Jesus, may imitate Him faithfully, and persevere till they attain eternal life. Amen.
NYer, this is going much further than just accepting that something exists or not. OR, is www.catholic.org not "orthodox?"
Sure sounds like "worship" to me
What religion are you?
Where did I say I worshipped angels?
I said I asked my Guardian Angel for help. Period.
I am a born again bible believing Christian, why?
OK... ME TOO!!I am a member of the Catholic Church....what Denomination are you?
Even the unborn, the Holy Innocents, have an angel, a guardian angel, because they are a human being. OK?
Thanks for your defense. When may I hire you for court? LOL!
I’m just getting back to the thread and posted basically the same thing! God bless!
I didn't know Catholics were "born again". I thought you were incorporated into the Catholic Church
Once again, I didn’t pray to my angel? I asked them for help.
If you lived nextdoor to me and I asked you for help in moving a piece of furniture, would that be praying?
It seems to me, that you are way off base in your thinking here.
**I didn’t know Catholics were “born again”. **
Of course we are! At our Baptism, whether it is as an adult or as an infant!
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