Scriptural Basis for Catholic Doctrine (Series)

Original | 8/20/7 | pjr12345

[pjr12345]

Papal Authority / Apostolic Succession / Peter as First Pope

The basis for papal authority lies in the Roman Catholic Church's interpretation of Matthew 16:18-19 --

18 And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it. 19 And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed[d] in heaven.

Catholics believe that Jesus was addressing Peter only in His statement, and interpret this verse as Jesus' intent to build an earthly institution of man with Peter as its foundational leader.

[ArrogantBustard]

You counted wrong ... there are 72.

[Running On Empty]

I thought we were to keep this civil.

Matthew 7:12

[pjr12345]

Could you close this thread? I’ve already replaced it with one with a “Scripture Only” caucus designation.

Thank you.

[Running On Empty]

Ping (for Matthew 7:12)

[LiteKeeper]

I know of 66 books...which 6 “non-apocryphal” books are you referring to?

[Invincibly Ignorant]

Ya mean you use other parts of the writings? I thought ya’ll just took John 6 literally?

[Petronski]

My Duoay-Rheims has 73 books, including 7 apocryphals deleted by Luther (in a self-indulgent snit).

[Running On Empty]

Thanks from the Lurkers Gallery for your responses.

We’re keeping tabs :-)

[Petronski]

Run away! Run away!

[pjr12345]

ArrogantBustard is quite right. This should be designated a “Scripture-only” caucus. I have asked the Religion Moderator to close this thread, and I have opened a new one with this designation.

My apologies for any inconvenience.

[ArrogantBustard]

Never fear ... it will lose its caucus designation as soon as you start discussing the beliefs of anybody who doesn’t subscribe to your “Scripture Only” doctrine.

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

This series is intended to demonstrate Biblical support (or lack thereof) for certain doctrines common within the Catholic faith. Appeals to Tradition, Magisterium, Creeds, Commentaries, or any material other than Scripture are unacceptable.

This is like my atheist college philosophy professor who banned any discussion of God in the debates he set up. He did it with a very smug, satisfied smile.

[LiteKeeper]

My Duoay-Rheims has 73 books, including 7 apocryphals deleted by Luther (in a self-indulgent snit).

The issue was "non-apocryphal" books...which part of "non" did you miss.

[Petronski]

...which part of "non" did you miss.

I didn't miss anything. He states the discussion is limited to scripture, but then he mis-defines scripture as only 66 books, which is inaccurate. Only those burdened with bibles adulterated by Luther think there are only 66 books.

[LiteKeeper]

In the Protestant world, there are only 66 books in the Bible. Roman Catholics believe in the apocrypha...excluded as not inspired in the opinion of Protestants. That is “inaccurate” only in the estimation of Roman Catholics.

[Petronski]

There have always been 73 books in the bible. It is Luther who tore seven out because he didn’t like them. Too bad so sad for you, but taking white-out to entire chapters and books does not obliterate them, except in small minds.

By the way, I’m just wondering: when Luther tore those books from the Bible, did he burn them?

[Admin Moderator]

If you don’t like the rules, then leave the thread and create your own.

You have quite a bizarre notion of who makes the rules around here.