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Scriptural Basis for Catholic Doctrine (Series)
Original | 8/20/7 | pjr12345

Posted on 08/20/2007 2:11:09 PM PDT by pjr12345

Papal Authority / Apostolic Succession / Peter as First Pope

The basis for papal authority lies in the Roman Catholic Church's interpretation of Matthew 16:18-19 --

18 And I also say to you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build My church, and the gates of Hades shall not prevail against it. 19 And I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed[d] in heaven.

Catholics believe that Jesus was addressing Peter only in His statement, and interpret this verse as Jesus' intent to build an earthly institution of man with Peter as its foundational leader.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Theology
KEYWORDS: badfaith; bashing; catholic; defense; doctrine; scripture
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To: LiteKeeper

You counted wrong ... there are 72.


21 posted on 08/20/2007 2:39:19 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: pjr12345

I thought we were to keep this civil.

Matthew 7:12


22 posted on 08/20/2007 2:39:29 PM PDT by Running On Empty (The three sorriest words: "It's too late")
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To: Religion Moderator

Could you close this thread? I’ve already replaced it with one with a “Scripture Only” caucus designation.

Thank you.


23 posted on 08/20/2007 2:40:21 PM PDT by pjr12345
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To: Petronski

Ping (for Matthew 7:12)


24 posted on 08/20/2007 2:40:57 PM PDT by Running On Empty (The three sorriest words: "It's too late")
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To: ArrogantBustard

I know of 66 books...which 6 “non-apocryphal” books are you referring to?


25 posted on 08/20/2007 2:41:37 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: pjr12345

Ya mean you use other parts of the writings? I thought ya’ll just took John 6 literally?


26 posted on 08/20/2007 2:41:58 PM PDT by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: LiteKeeper
My Duoay-Rheims has 73 books, including 7 apocryphals deleted by Luther (in a self-indulgent snit).
27 posted on 08/20/2007 2:42:07 PM PDT by Petronski (Why would Romney lie about Ronald Reagan's record?)
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To: ArrogantBustard; Petronski

Thanks from the Lurkers Gallery for your responses.

We’re keeping tabs :-)


28 posted on 08/20/2007 2:43:00 PM PDT by Running On Empty (The three sorriest words: "It's too late")
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To: pjr12345

Run away! Run away!


29 posted on 08/20/2007 2:43:04 PM PDT by Petronski (Why would Romney lie about Ronald Reagan's record?)
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ArrogantBustard is quite right. This should be designated a “Scripture-only” caucus. I have asked the Religion Moderator to close this thread, and I have opened a new one with this designation.

My apologies for any inconvenience.


30 posted on 08/20/2007 2:45:41 PM PDT by pjr12345
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To: pjr12345

Never fear ... it will lose its caucus designation as soon as you start discussing the beliefs of anybody who doesn’t subscribe to your “Scripture Only” doctrine.


31 posted on 08/20/2007 2:57:33 PM PDT by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: pjr12345
This series is intended to demonstrate Biblical support (or lack thereof) for certain doctrines common within the Catholic faith. Appeals to Tradition, Magisterium, Creeds, Commentaries, or any material other than Scripture are unacceptable.

This is like my atheist college philosophy professor who banned any discussion of God in the debates he set up. He did it with a very smug, satisfied smile.

32 posted on 08/20/2007 3:23:25 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah (Catholic4Mitt)
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To: Petronski
My Duoay-Rheims has 73 books, including 7 apocryphals deleted by Luther (in a self-indulgent snit).

The issue was "non-apocryphal" books...which part of "non" did you miss.

33 posted on 08/20/2007 3:40:10 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: LiteKeeper
...which part of "non" did you miss.

I didn't miss anything. He states the discussion is limited to scripture, but then he mis-defines scripture as only 66 books, which is inaccurate. Only those burdened with bibles adulterated by Luther think there are only 66 books.

34 posted on 08/20/2007 3:45:26 PM PDT by Petronski (Why would Romney lie about Ronald Reagan's record?)
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To: Petronski

In the Protestant world, there are only 66 books in the Bible. Roman Catholics believe in the apocrypha...excluded as not inspired in the opinion of Protestants. That is “inaccurate” only in the estimation of Roman Catholics.


35 posted on 08/20/2007 4:18:18 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: LiteKeeper

There have always been 73 books in the bible. It is Luther who tore seven out because he didn’t like them. Too bad so sad for you, but taking white-out to entire chapters and books does not obliterate them, except in small minds.

By the way, I’m just wondering: when Luther tore those books from the Bible, did he burn them?


36 posted on 08/20/2007 4:23:31 PM PDT by Petronski (Why would Romney lie about Ronald Reagan's record?)
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To: pjr12345
If you don’t like the rules, then leave the thread and create your own.

You have quite a bizarre notion of who makes the rules around here.

37 posted on 08/20/2007 6:23:03 PM PDT by Admin Moderator
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