Posted on 08/12/2007 3:46:23 PM PDT by ForEternity
For the life of me I have never been able to figure this one out; so called gay christians.
We hope Rainbow Baptists and the official AWAB site can be your starting places for Christian gay and lesbian related information.
Simply knowing Jesus Christ is the Savior of the world is not the same as following Jesus Christ.
A Christian is a follower of Jesus Christ. You can not be a practicing homosexual and be a legitimate Christian at the same time.
And by legitimate I mean in the eyes of God.
The methodist performing homosexual marriages
Link This group is trying to use the Bible to justify homosexuality. -Can you believe that?
Do these people actually think they can use these arguments to talk their way out of their final judgement?
The Episcopal church With a link to the Presbyterians
The pathway which God has given to men to enter His heavenly kingdom have been the same since the time of Adam -to repent. Repentence is the key to gaining entrance into the kingdom of heaven.
Repentence means that you recognize your sin, ask forgiveness, then never commit that sin again. A person that is committing homosexual acts and doesn't repent is in violation of this eternal law.
These organizations that are embracing homosexuality are not of God. No matter how much they claim to be "christian" or "godly" they are not. They are evil.
Jesus warned us of this: Matthew 7
| 15 Beware of false prophets, who come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves. 16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles? 17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit. 18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit. 19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire. 20 Wherefore, by their fruits ye shall know them. |
These groups are showing their fruits. They are not teaching repentence and preparing their members to stand at the judgement. They are embracing sin and asking all us to join them.
This is not just some disagreement. Not just some oversight. This is who they have become.
They are ravening wolves. As such they will continue down this path and will lead as many people as they can to the same fate that awaits them.
You can't be a Christian and a homosexual. You have to choose one or the other.
We’ve had Gay Catholics for some time. They’re called Jesuits...
You can’t be a Christian and any kind of unrepentant sinner.
Repentance means to change your mind. Turn away from sin. Feel remorse for; feel sorry for; be contrite about. Not "never commit that sin again."
I don't mean any disrespect to your definition, but I think this fine point needs to be made and carefully weighed. The goal of repentance is to change your way or mind and obey Jesus, not that you will never again commit the same sin you already asked forgiveness for. This is a key point of understanding what "grace" is all about.
THE ANSWER IS SIMPLE.
Open the Bible and read it.
One can be a Christian.
One can be a homosexual.
One cannot be both.
A CHRISTian is a follower of CHRIST.
A homosexual is not a follower of Christ.
Christ is sinless.
Homosexuality is a sin.
It is that simple.
Really.
But you don't sin in any way, ever, right?
What’s your point Tax-chick?
I won’t presume, I’ll let you explain first.
There is more than the question of of whether you sin or not. There is the question of whether you do it willfully and without compunction. Of wether you can face that sin is working in you, and therefore you need a savior. Or whether it's not biggie to you.
My point is that the logical conclusion from that statement: “Christ is sinless; homosexuality is a sin” is that ANY person who sins cannot be Christian.
If the poster wished to clarify her point, and say that any deliberate and unrepented sin separates one from Christ, she may do so. However, as it stands, the implications are theologically very dubious.
That's exactly my point. The question is not "whether you sin." All of us sin. Most all of us (generalizing from my experience) sin repetitively. I yell at my kids every day, even though I know it's both wrong and stupid.
The specific problem with homosexual acts, in my opinion, is in declaring them to not be sinful at all. This is, of course, also the problem with a variety of heterosexual sins against chastity.
Granted. But adulterers don't gather together in various stages of undress to have parades celebrating their right to be adulterers.
No, you’re right. That seems to be a unique feature of homosexuals.
However, heterosexual fornicators and adulterers (at least of the Celebrity kind) have the general-circulation magazines and newspapers in which to parade their behavior, “judgment-free.”
along with TV and movies!
Good point! In my opinion, we would not now have the situation we have with homosexuals, if there hadn’t been a public consensus decades ago to give heterosexual sins a moral pass.
That is not what I get from her post. Everyone of us sin but we do not boast in sin. I don't know about your Church but in mine if two people live in a sinful relationship and refuse to repent and stop that life style, be it straight or gay, they are removed from the membership.
You can not live in Christ and live in sin.
Here is a cut from the website listed on the original post.
Members of the Association of Welcoming & Affirming Baptists (AWAB) are churches, organizations, and individuals who are willing to go on record as welcoming and affirming all persons without regard to sexual orientation or gender identity, and who have joined together to advocate for the full inclusion of lesbian, gay, bisexual and transgender persons within Baptist communities of faith.
I noticed that on HGTV, too. It’s nice to see the renovated houses, but so many of them are owned by same-sex couples!
Obviously, people can assimilate different understandings from the same words.
Gay Baptists, homosexual Christians,= oxymorons
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