"The reason that the women are determined to remain Roman Catholics, instead of forming their own church or joining another — such as the Episcopal Church, which ordains female clergy — is that they consider the Roman Catholic Church to be their family, albeit a dysfunctional one, and they have no intention of abandoning it."
ROFL!!
Well they can call themselves anything they want. In reality, they are heretics.
The participants in this movement must be fervently smoking crack cocaine!
NO.
Now go away.
Gode? Ghads, people just...
Santa Barbara is in the archdiocese of Los Angeles — quelle surprise!
All the while the "young fogey" traditional and orthodox Catholics are suiting up to clear the stables after 40 years. And unlike the 'womynpriest' crowd, the orthodox Catholics actually have priests that are real priests.
They added that excommunication, contrary to popular belief, does not remove one from the church; it only means that one cannot receive the sacraments. “Nothing can put you out of the church once you have been baptized,”
Every member of the Church Militant who obstinately remains separated from Holy Mother Church by sin or schism risks not having a place in the Church Triumphant.
Something about millstones come to mind...
Uh, calling yourself a Catholic doesn't necessarily make you one.
“It’s in my blood. There are a lot of things wrong within the church, but I love it, and the only way to change it is to stay.”
These women seem like such dodos that you have to wonder about their moral culpability.
What other "splinter groups"? Anyone have any idea what they're talking about?
Sigh.
You just know that there was a meeting about this one too.
Hi.
My name is Napoleon.
I’m an emperor.
Maybe that's because they hide their names and the place where this goofyness took place. But God knows.
“...took place at an interfaith center in Santa Barbara that reporters agreed not to name in exchange for an invitation to attend...”
Hmmm.... Look at the picture. I see an obviously modern (as in ugly) building with permanent stations of the cross imbedded in the wall (and, from the looks of it, the AC duct). Looks like a Catholic church bldg to me. Anyone else think so? Why else would the location be so “secret.”
Anyone here from Santa Barbara and recognize the interior? Some “progressive” parish priest may have some ‘splaining to do....
For the conversion of sinners.
"We got bored with wearing Mommy's high-heels! Wearing Father's chasuble is ever so much more fun!"
Them saying they are catholic is like me saying I’m a roman centurion. Saying it all they want does not make it so.
uh.....no longer Catholic, let alone a Catholic PRIEST! Man, they are dancing on the trapdoor of hell.
Assuming that the incident described above happened as stated, and that the male bishops involved were Roman Catholics, one is moved to wonder what consequences follow from the automatic excommunications prescribed by Canon 1382 ("Both the Bishop who, without a pontifical mandate, consecrates a person a Bishop, and the one who receives the consecration from him, incur a latae sententiae excommunication reserved to the Apostolic See"). It's not unthinkable that a couple retired bishops could be sufficiently loose in the hinges to attempt this prank. Since it's all secret, however, we won't know who they are or the date on which they excommunicated themselves for some time. Presumably the sacraments they perform are valid even after their excommunication, but it's odd to think that one's confirmation or consecration might be effected by a man revealed after the fact to have been a non-Catholic. The theological force of episcopal collegiality, moreover, is stretched to the breaking point by the image of patchwork communion. If Bishop X is buried in the cathedral crypt, will they disinter him after the video surfaces and re-bury him in partibus infidelium?Maybe it'll turn out to be a hoax, and the "male bishops" merely part-time kleagles hired from one of those goofy autocephalous outfits. But the general drowsiness with which many Catholic ecclesiastics treat of the sacraments suggests they view their ordination in the same terms as Patricia Fresen and company: a ritual of empowerment conferring the confidence to preach, counsel, and lead the singing of hymns. Do you get the sense the college of bishops is as keen to spy out the offenders in their midst as a college of surgeons would be to rid themselves of impostors in theirs?
I can call my dog a cat but that doesn’t mean it can climb trees.