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To: NYer

Well they can call themselves anything they want. In reality, they are heretics.


3 posted on 07/27/2007 11:28:17 AM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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To: netmilsmom
Well they can call themselves anything they want.

Someone needs to start calling them Excommunicated and I believe that someone is called the Pope!

7 posted on 07/27/2007 11:33:50 AM PDT by FormerLib (Sacrificing our land and our blood cannot buy protection from jihad.-Bishop Artemije of Kosovo)
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To: netmilsmom
Well they can call themselves anything they want. In reality, they are heretics.

This is very much like those who practice polygamy, yet call themselves "Mormon". I can empathize with the annoyance it might cause.

34 posted on 07/27/2007 1:23:54 PM PDT by TChris (The Republican Party is merely the Democrat Party's "away" jersey - Vox Day)
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“’Priesthood,’ added [Victoria] Rue, ‘is about leadership within the community.’ There are many types of ministries to which people are called, she said, concluding, ‘I feel called to the ministry of the liturgy,’ which she described as communal worship.”

Such so-called ordinations of women are a consequence of the abandonment of the ad orientem posture, and replacing it with the versus populum posture, in the celebration of the Mass.

“It is no surprise that a liturgy set within this Enlightenment context, which at once accentuates the people and invites the priest to become a ‘presider’ over this people’s republic, cultivates a distinctive celebrity ethos, the aura of the politician who, in modernity, is not so much a moral agent as an amoral actor. The presider or president is the center of attention and must act and react accordingly; he is, more than ever, the man in charge, the holy politico. Acording to Cardinal Ratzinger, the feminist clamor for women’s ordination could only have occurred after the lowering and lessening of the priestly office to a vehicle of community power. . . .
“When this liturgy [the old rite, which “stresses the unworthiness of the priest himself” and “asks of the priest a self-abegnation out of obedience to the law of the liturgy”] formed the minds and hearts of the faithful, there was hardly a whimper about the ‘need’ for women priests. Could one have then coveted the priesthood as though it were a position of merely human authority, a matter of facilitating a simple ritual action, as it now appears to be on the account of the new liturgy?”

Ms. Rue’s comments confirm the premise of the above-quoted article; she views the priesthood as leadership in communal worship, not as offering sacrifice “in persona Christi capitis (in the person of Christ the Head).”

[Source: Postgate, Nicholas. “A Rite Histrionic and Distorted,” The Latin Mass, Winter 2007, pp 34-39.]


105 posted on 07/29/2007 6:51:56 AM PDT by Serviam1
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