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To: NYer
Diogenes at CWN weighs in on this and contemplates the bishops who "consecrated" Fresen:

Assuming that the incident described above happened as stated, and that the male bishops involved were Roman Catholics, one is moved to wonder what consequences follow from the automatic excommunications prescribed by Canon 1382 ("Both the Bishop who, without a pontifical mandate, consecrates a person a Bishop, and the one who receives the consecration from him, incur a latae sententiae excommunication reserved to the Apostolic See"). It's not unthinkable that a couple retired bishops could be sufficiently loose in the hinges to attempt this prank. Since it's all secret, however, we won't know who they are or the date on which they excommunicated themselves for some time. Presumably the sacraments they perform are valid even after their excommunication, but it's odd to think that one's confirmation or consecration might be effected by a man revealed after the fact to have been a non-Catholic. The theological force of episcopal collegiality, moreover, is stretched to the breaking point by the image of patchwork communion. If Bishop X is buried in the cathedral crypt, will they disinter him after the video surfaces and re-bury him in partibus infidelium?

Maybe it'll turn out to be a hoax, and the "male bishops" merely part-time kleagles hired from one of those goofy autocephalous outfits. But the general drowsiness with which many Catholic ecclesiastics treat of the sacraments suggests they view their ordination in the same terms as Patricia Fresen and company: a ritual of empowerment conferring the confidence to preach, counsel, and lead the singing of hymns. Do you get the sense the college of bishops is as keen to spy out the offenders in their midst as a college of surgeons would be to rid themselves of impostors in theirs?


42 posted on 07/27/2007 2:22:09 PM PDT by maryz
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Yes ... I saw that AFTER I posted this thread. He does an excellent job of disecting the news report; calls them Unitarians.. lol! Once again, the media show their ignorance and use these opportunities to drive confusion amongst the faithful. (shaking head)


49 posted on 07/27/2007 4:07:53 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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