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To: Gamecock; ears_to_hear; HarleyD; Dr. Eckleburg; P-Marlowe; alpha-8-25-02; xzins; ...
Just an observation of a young priest (since no one else seems to be pointing this out) :-]

Everyone is noticing the decline in vocations, but everyone seems to overlook one obvious, and perhaps chief reason--contraception. Without children, there is no future. The Western world has ignored Humanae vitae for nearly 40 years. And the result? the pews are empty (therefore Churches are closing), the seminaries are empty (close the seminaries), the religious houses and even entire orders aren't getting vocations.

The devil's plan is to destroy the family. "Be sterile and selfish" I seem to hear him say--population control, Planned "Barrenhood", contraception, abortion, sterilization, etc.

God's plan, "Be fruitful and multiply". As Pope John Paul II said to the families in the Jubilee Year 2000 A.D., "Do not be afraid to have children!" And to the Italians (who have been committing demographical suicide through contraception and abortion) he said, "Stop being selfish and start having children."

Families that follow God's plan tend to have more children and more vocations. We are getting lots of vocational inquiries from large Catholic families, frequently homeschooled.

If any of you are interested, there are some excellent Pro-Life vlogs at http://airmaria.com/?cat=8 Fr. Angelo is particular excellent on this subject. God bless you...

35 posted on 05/28/2007 5:18:57 AM PDT by fr maximilian mary ("Imitate Jesus, love Mary as your Mother." Mother Teresa of Calcutta)
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To: fr maximilian mary
So right.....plus parents want GRANDCHILDREN more than they want a nun or a priest, so they never nudge their children toward the religious life.

At Baptism, the priest should mention to the parents that the child COULD become a priest or a nun if they would support it....and the same at First Holy Communion and Confirmation. Plant the seed, priests.

37 posted on 05/28/2007 5:52:05 AM PDT by Suzy Quzy (Hillary '08...Her Phoniness is Genuine!!!)
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To: fr maximilian mary

Good point Father. It wasn’t unusual for families to have 8 or 10 kids and see several of them become priests or nuns just 50 years ago.


41 posted on 05/28/2007 6:02:38 AM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: fr maximilian mary

great post! God bless you with your vocation.


49 posted on 05/28/2007 7:56:30 AM PDT by Nihil Obstat (Kyrie Eleison)
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To: fr maximilian mary

amen


81 posted on 05/28/2007 7:53:54 PM PDT by WriteOn (Truth)
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To: fr maximilian mary
Families that follow God's plan tend to have more children and more vocations. We are getting lots of vocational inquiries from large Catholic families, frequently homeschooled.

There's your answer. In our homeschool group, my family with 4 kiddies (soon to be 5) is actually average to small. There are several with lots more. And more wonderful people you'll rarely meet.
84 posted on 05/28/2007 9:24:48 PM PDT by Antoninus (P!ss off an environmentalist wacko . . . have more kids.)
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To: fr maximilian mary

ASIA IS CHURCH’S HOPE FOR VOCATIONS
Largest Number of Seminarians in India

VATICAN CITY, APR 20 (ZENIT).- Next Sunday, April 25, is the “World Day of Prayer for Priestly and Religious Vocations.” According to the latest estimates in the Holy See’s Statistical Yearbook, there are 404,208 priests in the world today, 140,687 of whom are religious clergy.

In his message for this day of prayer, the Holy Father has linked Vocations Day with the Jubilee. “Humanity needs holy priests and consecrated souls who live daily the total gift of self to God and to their neighbor,” he writes.

According to the latest estimates, there are 58,210 men religious (not priests), and 819,287 women religious, including cloistered nuns. The members of secular institutes total 31,197, almost all of whom are women (30,534 to be precise). There are at present 24,407 permanent deacons, of which 548 are religious.

The Holy See’s Statistical Yearbook reveals an impressive increase in the number of priestly vocations in Africa, Asia, Oceania and Latin America between 1978 and 1997.

At present, there are 18,156 candidates for the priesthood in Africa, both religious and diocesan. In North America there are 5,413; in Central America, 9,589; in South America, 18,041; in Asia, 25,169; in Europe, 28, 641; and in Oceania, 861.

The increase of the number of candidates for the priesthood, including Eastern Europe, is significant. North America, however, is undergoing a serious crisis in vocations, and no let up is in sight.

The greatest surprise is that Asia has become the “vocational hope” of the Catholic Church. It has virtually the same number of seminarians as Europe and Latin America, in spite of the fact that in Asia the number of Catholics is only 4.5% of the total population.

India has become the country with the largest number of vocations in the world, specifically, some 10,000 seminarians, ahead of traditionally Catholic countries like Poland (6,954), Mexico (6,849), Brazil (6,805), Italy (6,299), Colombia (3,923), Spain (3,010), Argentina (2,046), and France (1,628).

The United States has 4,785 seminarians.
Other promising vocations in Asia include the Philippines, with 6,941 candidates to the priesthood; Indonesia, with 2,637; Korea, with 1,812; and Vietnam, with 1,412.
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98 posted on 05/29/2007 7:00:09 AM PDT by Frank Sheed (Dead Ráibéad.... Lifelong Irish Papist!)
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To: fr maximilian mary
Just an observation of a young priest (since no one else seems to be pointing this out) :-] Everyone is noticing the decline in vocations, but everyone seems to overlook one obvious, and perhaps chief reason--contraception. Without children, there is no future

Not only that, but, a family with 6 or 8 kids might rejoice if 1 or 2 decided to take holy orders. But in a family with only 1 or 2 kids to begin with -- the kids joining holy orders is a tragedy, extinction in fact (unless, of course, priestly celibacy is revoked.) Perhaps that's the real reason for vocational shortages -- parents discourage their scarce offspring from seeking them, for fear of having no grandchildren.

I know the feeling. I was unwillingly single til almost too late -- I married at age 38 (my wife was 34). Now we have 2 kids and we're hoping for at least a 3rd soon, before it's too late... but if God had seen fit to bring us together at an earlier age, we both would have wanted a lot more. And we're Protestants! (BTW, I have run into a number of non-contracepting Evangelical families over the years, with anywhere from 6 to 14 children. If only... if only...)

101 posted on 05/29/2007 8:06:38 AM PDT by Rytwyng (open borders = open treason)
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To: fr maximilian mary

Great post, Fr. Thanks for being here.


104 posted on 05/29/2007 10:08:48 AM PDT by Rutles4Ever (Ubi Petrus, ibi ecclesia, et ubi ecclesia vita eterna)
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To: fr maximilian mary; 8mmMauser; cgk; cpforlife.org; narses; Coleus; NYer; Salvation; samiam1972; ...

Ping to several people who I know would enjoy Father Maximilian’s excellent and very insightful comments! (I know that I am pinging a few non-Catholics, but you are dear FRiends of mine and I know you will appreciate his insight.)

God Bless


105 posted on 05/29/2007 10:15:28 AM PDT by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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To: fr maximilian mary
A lot of links on vocations here on FR:

Cardinal Arinze - "Youth will embrace religious life with right role models"
Today's seminarians reflect growing trend
Number of Seminarians Increases - Please Decipher This!!!!
In Seminaries, New Ways for a New Generation
Seminary Springtime: Father Darrin Connall s Big Success

EVIDENCE GROWS OF DIRECT DISOBEDIENCE TO VATICAN IN MAJOR AMERICAN SEMINARIES
Pope to Church: Risky Seminarians Must Go
Priests Down, Seminarians Up
U.S. Priests and seminarians survey: more vocations in orthodox dioceses
Vatican Announces Surge in Seminaries during JPII Pontificate

Seminary Reform Needed in Wake of Sex Abuse Study ["the crisis in the Church is ... homosexuality"]
Homosexuals in seminaries? The latest.....
Priests 'In Orgy' at Seminary
Bishop urges gay ban in clergy; presses for overhaul in screening priests
A New Breed of Priest

AUSTRIAN SEMINARY SHUT DOWN FOR PROBE
Seminarians Show Support For Celibacy
556 Reasons for Hope [Seminarians Support Celibacy]
No Shortage of Vocations From Conservative Parishes
Oakland seminary housing sex offender priests

Phoenix bishop to helm Priestly Formation Committee [of USCCB]
Vatican Firms up Plans for U.S. Seminary Visitation in 2005
SIBLING VOCATIONS - Early calls led two sisters to same religious order
On the admission of homosexuals to seminaries
Catholic priests demand the right to marry

New Start For Austrian Seminary
Disciples of Pope John Paul (Faculty of Gregorian University Gripe About Piety of New Seminarians)
New Priests in U.S.: Older, and More >From Abroad (Survey Tracks Trends Since 1998)
U.S. seminarians welcome Pope Benedict XVI
Vatican review of seminaries to raise issue of gay priests

Some Decry Retirement Despite Priest Shortage
The Priesthood Ordination Class of 2005 “People would be surprised to know that I…”
(Catholic) Seminarians Double In 25 Years
Pope's death inspires would-be priests
Changes Add Up for Priesthood

Irish Bishops Apologize to Seminary Whistle-Blower
SIGNAL CALLING - UB quarterback foregoes family and career to train for priesthood in Rome
Pop Culture Heros Help Recruit Priests
Small Bible-belt (Catholic) diocese sees increase in seminarians
Dashing young priests turn heads at Youth Day

Vatican to Start U.S. Seminary Evaluations
Apostolic Seminary Visitation To Begin This Fall
U.S. Bishops to Begin Inspecting Seminaries
Prelate Says Gays Shouldn't Be Ordained
American overseeing Vatican evaluation of US seminaries says gays should not be ordained

Vatican to Check U.S. Seminaries on Gay Presence
POPE APPROVES BARRING GAY SEMINARIANS
Pope bans homosexuals from ordination as priests
Questions Arise Over Seminary Inspections
New Vatican Rule Said to Bar Gays as New Priests

New Vatican Rule Said to Bar Gays as New Priests (ABOUT TIME)
VATICAN: HOMOSEXUALS ARE NOT TO BE ORDAINED AS CATHOLIC PRIESTS
Homosexuals in the seminary; A Global Church in a Globalized World
Gay Men Ponder Impact of (Anti-Gay Clergy)Proposal by Vatican(Barf Alert)
Aquinas Seminary is First for Scrutiny

Vatican Begins Inspections At St. Louis Seminary (Rector: No homosexuality-pedophilia link)
The Sins of the Seminaries
Notre Dame Experts React to Potential Seminary Rules
Seminary Reviews Not Just About Homosexuality, Says Prelate
Jesuit Official Rips Expected Ban on Gays

Jesuit Official Rips Expected Ban on Gays
Jesuit official protesting expected Vatican ban on gay priests
A Catholic Moment of Truth
Gay Catholics Angry Over Seminary Searches
New Rules Affirm Pope Benedict's Stance Against Gays

New Report on Vatican Gay Priests Document Said to be Gay Lobby “Rumor Mill”
Gay men can be priests if celibate
Gay men can be Catholic priests if celibate-paper
No ban on gays expected in Vatican document; will advise 'prudential judgement'
African Cardinal Views the Vocation Shortage - With Full Seminaries, Ghana Shares Its Wealth

Keep the Ban
Today's seminarians: The Vatican survey
Lincoln diocese boasts highest number of priests to Catholics
Vatican Document on homosexuals in seminaries will be published tomorrow
Married Priests Aren’t the Answer (a seminarian states his view)

Vatican document restricts gays in priesthood: paper
Barring gays from priesthood not discrimination, say Italian bishops
Roman Women are Converts to Convents
Heads Up!! Zero Hour is 9am on December 29
Why I Thank God I Couldn’t Be A Priest

A look inside the Denver seminaries
Ordination Challenges: Out of the Seminary, Into the Fire
Vatican teams checking seminary effectiveness (in all, 229 US seminaries to be reviewed)
Seminaries Are Overflowing in Socialist Vietnam
Seminaries Full in Southern India (despite new anti-conversion law)

Ordination Class of 2006 - New Catholic Priests include twins, converts and some surprises
Twin ordinands, youngest of 13, credit parents for priestly vocations
Eleven new priests for Denver, largest ordination class in 40 years
Religious vocations can come from anyplace
Coordinator of U.S. seminary visitations expects report this fall

Continued growth for Australian seminaries
Journey of faith runs through R.I. (young Polish immigrant ordained to priesthood)
A leaf of Faith (Catholic convert enters religious life)
More twins (enter priesthood)
These twins are doubly blessed - Identical brothers from Erie to become priests today

New, stricter Priestly Formation Program issued for U.S. Catholic seminaries
O Father, Where Art Thou? (US catholics coping with shrinking priesthood)
Pope Tells of Key to Awaken Vocations (address to religious and seminarians at Vespers)
U.S. Catholic Seminary Probe Sent to Vatican
Homosems, A Year On

Vocations Are Up at English-Speaking Seminaries
Vocations Surge - The Priest Shortage Isn’t Over, But Seminaries Are Filling Up
To Know, To Love, To Lead (Pope Benedict XVI ordains 22 new priests)

127 posted on 05/30/2007 9:21:27 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: fr maximilian mary
There is one more link to post in this series:

Father, Mother, Sister, Brother [Part One of a series on Celibacy] -- Catholic Caucus

It Takes a Village of Vocations [Part Two of a series on Celibacy] -- Catholic Caucus

Living Single and Celibate in God’s Service [Part Three of a series on Celibacy] -- Catholic Caucus

Brothers and Sisters in Christ [Part Four of a series on Celibacy] -- Catholic Caucus

The Adventure of the Priesthood [Part Five of a series on Celibacy] -- Catholic Caucus

128 posted on 05/30/2007 9:28:42 AM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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