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From Pastor to Parishioner: My Love for Christ Led Me Home (to the Catholic Church)
This Rock Magazine ^ | Drake McCalister

Posted on 05/25/2007 12:48:02 PM PDT by NYer

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To: Dr. Eckleburg; LiteKeeper

You wrote:

“LOLOL. From the very first sentence...”

No, there is nothing in the first sentence about his actual conversion. He was remembering his thoughts years ago about what he would have thought about a conversion at that time. I asked something different. I asked: Uh, where EXACTLY did the author show any “emotionalism” as opposed to “solid Biblical teaching”? And that question was in regard to this statement: “Delusion ALERT! Emotionalism never makes up for solid Biblical teaching.”

“Very “solid” and unemotional. LOL.”

If you are admitting that Protestant views of Catholicism are emotional in the extreme, I would agree. But that isn’t what I asked for, nor is it what LiteKeeper asserted.

Also, a stomach turning isn’t even necessarily a sign of “emotionalism”. People often experience such things, for instance, when they see a dead body. I would hardly call that emotionalism.

I see no “emotionalism” in the article. I certainly see no emotionalism being put in place of “solid Biblical teaching” either. I think LiteKeeper will be as unsuccessful as you have been.


21 posted on 05/25/2007 3:22:17 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

No matter how well constructed a polemic is, if it is faulty from its premise, it is wrong.

I say, does the good Reverend still refer to Catholics as devils and sons of whores?

I’d say his words are quite emotional. I’d much prefer someone referring to his physical state, even vomiting for that matter, than name calling.

How wonderful that another pastor has come home to the fullness that our Lord intended for everyone!


22 posted on 05/25/2007 3:29:03 PM PDT by OpusatFR
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

You wrote:

“For balance...”

Citing Ian Paisley’s bizarre website for “balance” is somewhere is just silly. Little about Paisley is balanced.

Some of his claimed college degrees appear to be bogus.

And back in the late 1960s, Paisley said, after inciting Protestants to burn out Catholics: “Catholic homes caught fire because they were loaded with petrol bombs; Catholic churches were attacked and burned because they were arsenals and priests handed out sub-machine guns to parishioners.”

He’s a nut.

‘’We remained concerned with Dr. Paisley’s record of violent rhetoric and inflammatory actions,’’ the spokesman said. (so he was denied an entry visa into the USA = http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B02EEDA1239F933A15750C0A965948260

At least now he is (somewhat) trying to make some conciliatory moves. He must be dying and preparing for his judgment day.


23 posted on 05/25/2007 3:42:57 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: LiteKeeper
Emotionalism never makes up for solid Biblical teaching.

Emotionalism? Go ahead! Take the same challenge.

All I had to do was prove one doctrine false and the entire system would cease to be without error.

Or are you afraid of discovering the Truth?

24 posted on 05/25/2007 3:48:26 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: Iscool; Pyro7480
This fella either flunked out on discernment or it wasn't God Who led him to the Catholic church...

Hey .... if you disagree with him then take the same challenge.

All I had to do was prove one doctrine false and the entire system would cease to be without error.

That should be fairly simple, right? What do you have to lose?

25 posted on 05/25/2007 3:54:02 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: NYer

**He said on the side of the ship were the words “Queen Mary.” (At this point in my study, I didn’t know that this is a title for Mary;**

Our Lady brought him home to Rome!


26 posted on 05/25/2007 3:59:20 PM PDT by Macoraba
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To: NYer
We could spend dozens of entries debating the doctrine surrounding Mary...no one would be convinced, no one would change their mind, and we would all walk away frustrated.

But we have two different starting points. I am a firm and convinced believer in sola scriptura, most Roman Catholics are not. We could butt heads all night, and all we would gain from it would be higher blood pressure.

So thanks for the challenge, but no thanks. Nothing will be gained by it.

27 posted on 05/25/2007 4:00:08 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: AlaskaErik
I left Catholicism behind me almost 40 years ago and I’m never going back. Not ever.

Well, thank you for that announcement. You no doubt have your reasons for stating this on a thread about a former Protestant who has done extensive research to refute the teachings of the Catholic Church. Perhaps you would care to share them with us; otherwise, you might be interested in this site.

ONCE CATHOLIC

28 posted on 05/25/2007 4:04:01 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"If you grew up Catholic, it may be difficult for you to relate to those who profess faith in Jesus but whose stomachs turn at the thought of being Catholic..."

Did you grow up Catholic?

29 posted on 05/25/2007 4:07:11 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: NYer

Based on the Solo Scriptura approach by many non Catholic denominations, the average person reads/hears 2 verses from scripture per week.

Compare that the 1 Catholic Mass each weekday contains 2 verses and Sunday’s Mass has 3 it makes the parishioner reading/hearing 15 verses and instruction.

I’m only going by the facts. Whether any of it all sinks in or has an effect is not part of the equation, just that most non Catholics do not know that or never attended a Catholic Mass.

It is amazing the amount of non Catholics who get their education from those fallen away Catholics who never contributed to the Church but only say, “I never got anything from the Church.” All take and no give.


30 posted on 05/25/2007 4:12:59 PM PDT by franky1
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To: Macoraba
Our Lady brought him home to Rome!

As she always does. Our Blessed Mother leads all of God's children to her Son.

31 posted on 05/25/2007 4:19:03 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: LiteKeeper
We could spend dozens of entries debating the doctrine surrounding Mary...no one would be convinced, no one would change their mind, and we would all walk away frustrated.

What could be simpler! Find one Catholic dogma and prove it wrong. And, like a deck of cards, the entire Church collapses. Surely, after 30 years of preaching on the Bible, you can find error in one Catholic dogma.

The only thing you have to fear is fear itself. As Pope John Paul II often reminded us: "Be not afraid!"

32 posted on 05/25/2007 4:23:04 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: franky1
Compare that the 1 Catholic Mass each weekday contains 2 verses and Sunday’s Mass has 3 it makes the parishioner reading/hearing 15 verses and instruction.

Shhhhhhh! Don't let the cat out of fhe bag just yet ;-)

33 posted on 05/25/2007 4:25:25 PM PDT by NYer ("Where the bishop is present, there is the Catholic Church" - Ignatius of Antioch)
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To: AlaskaErik

You are probably still a Catholic. (You have FReepmail.)


34 posted on 05/25/2007 4:35:26 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: franky1

More than just 15 verses. Fifteen readings. Many verses in each reading.

Plus a daily dose of the Psalms!

And other prayers that any Catholic might choose to say or read or spontaneously compose.

Let alone any Bible reading that a Catholic might read. This week I have read from 7 books about the Holy Spirit,


35 posted on 05/25/2007 4:40:29 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: NYer
Please re-read my post.

The doctrines regarding Mary (veneration, co-redemptrix, mediatrix), sola scriptura vs tradition, sola fide, eucharist vs communion, the apocrypha, penance, purgatory, confession, celibacy (ignores the fact that Peter was married), sacraments as a means of grace, prayers to the saints, sainthood, papal infallibility, authority of the Councils (especially Trent, and the Vatican Councils)...on all of these we differ greatly. Many volumes have been used up debating these issues.

We simply disagree...and so be it.

36 posted on 05/25/2007 4:41:29 PM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: LiteKeeper

Okay, so we disagree. So why come into the thread and say that the convert dumped solid Biblical teaching for emotionalism when no such thing is apparent in the article?


37 posted on 05/25/2007 5:01:53 PM PDT by vladimir998 (Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
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To: franky1

There is also the Psalm between the first two readings.

Oh and usually the opening prayer is from the bible, word for word.


38 posted on 05/25/2007 5:37:23 PM PDT by Jaded ("I have a mustard- seed; and I am not afraid to use it."- Joseph Ratzinger)
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To: vladimir998; LiteKeeper

What he said.


39 posted on 05/25/2007 5:39:21 PM PDT by Jaded ("I have a mustard- seed; and I am not afraid to use it."- Joseph Ratzinger)
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To: AlaskaErik

Haven’t you learned yet that you NEVER say ‘never’ where the Lord’s concerned? hahah, sets you right up for His good plans.


40 posted on 05/25/2007 6:36:11 PM PDT by bboop (Stealth Tutor)
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