Posted on 04/25/2007 6:54:31 AM PDT by NYer
God has to be male?
Then what do females have to indentify with? (And Mary doesn’t count)
What happened to Shakina/Jehova?
Very well said....
Mary by the way is not the mother of God.
We can readily agree that She is the Mother of Jesus. John 10:30 "I and the Father are one." Do you deny the Holy Trinity?
Mary was a blessed woman who bore Jesus and went on to have a family with her husband Joseph.
Please, show chapter and verse.
Jesus is not God.
Already shown.
Jesus is the son of God the Father.
Yes. He is that too. That's a great mystery but it's true.
He is seated at the right hand of God making intersession for mankind.
Common Protestant mistake. He is enthroned before God. However, nowhere does the Bible say that He alone is making intercession for us... He is the One to Whom we cry! What you are referring to is His role as Mediator. Anyone in the legal profession will readily tell you that a mediator is one who settles a dispute and forges a bond. Christ did that on the Cross. I challenge you to find a reference in the Bible that can't be explained this way.
Amazing. Someone actually accepts “The Mists Of Avalon,” as fact. And I thought people were suckers for “The DaVinci Code.”
The details of exactly who's getting worshiped don't matter. It's offering worship to something that isn't God.
I was thinking fire and brimestone from heaven, in which case, I hope they have a really good bunker complex.
The Catholic rosary has beads, their rosary has beads...
This is a perfectly good verse about prayer, but it has nothing to do with praying to the dead.
OK, I re-read the article. I am just posoting what Catholic beliefs are. Is that OK with you?
Therefore, just as I might come to you and ask you to pray for me, we do the same with the Saints and elicit their prayers and intercessions. We worship no one but God.
The husband and wife relationship is far more important than the mother son relationship and the bible is clear that in heaven we are no longer married to our earthly wives. On earth when Jesus said "Who is my mother" he puts all Christian women at the same level as Mary saying that all Christian women are His mother/sister. Therefore RC doctrine about Mary's position in Heaven is scripturally baseless.
I’m only pointing out that the bible does not support prayer to dead “saints”.
Welcome home.
The bible says very clearly that the dead are not dead. It’s one of the biggest themes in the whole bible. There are many many places where the bible could simply state that we should ask for intercession from the dead but it never does. Rather it says many things about how wrong it is to speak with the dead, in any context.
this a wiccan phrase, I would think this gives it away and sums it up
So mote it be.
Apples and oranges. We are collectively the Bride of Christ in the Church. Our Earthly families are types of the Heavenly Family Who is Father, Son and Holy Spirit. We have the essence of God Himself, Who is Love and from that essence, we create the physical reality of our love which is offspring. These offspring we bring to communion with Christ so that they are no longer our sons and daughters but brothers and sisters in Christ. These Earthly relationships help us understand our relationship to God... but they are not eternal.
On earth when Jesus said "Who is my mother" he puts all Christian women at the same level as Mary saying that all Christian women are His mother/sister.
Obviously. Just as He gave all Christian women on Earth to John at the foot of the Cross to care for and take as his own mother... Again, you are mixing apples and oranges. Jesus is making a point in what you cited about the Heavenly reality of doing God's Will, not a point about Earthly family.
Therefore RC doctrine about Mary's position in Heaven is scripturally baseless.
You found us out. After 2000 years and more than a billion adherents, you have discovered the truth we tried so hard to hide. Or could it be, perhaps, that this is the result of personal interpretation outside of the Christ-appointed teaching role of the Church? My money's on the latter.
By the Earth, Sun, and Moon
The bible says very clearly that the dead are not dead. It’s one of the biggest themes in the whole bible. There are many many places where the bible could simply state that we should ask for intercession from the dead but it never does. Rather it says many things about how wrong it is to speak with the dead, in any context.
So the dead are not dead but we are not to speak to the dead. Got it.
In all charity, ask yourself this... if Christ is King of Heaven and Earth... are they separate kingdoms with separate peoples? Or is there one body with one Head, Who is Christ? There is one body and one communion and the only ones called "dead" by Christ are those who are not joined in salvation.
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