Posted on 04/25/2007 6:54:31 AM PDT by NYer
WOW -- coming from RC tradition I thought Id never return to the Rosary. But here it is and here SHE IS. Blessed be, Mairly.
The here in this message, found on herchurch.org, is Ebenezer Lutheran Church in San Francisco. But the SHE is not the Mother of God. SHE is God/dess.
On Wednesdays at 7 p.m., Ebenezer opens its sanctuary for the Christian Goddess Rosary. The church says it offers Goddess Rosary Beads and that prayers and suggested meditations will be on hand as well as incense, candles and bells.
The Goddess rosary is grounded in traditions of the Christian Church and the proclamation of the gospel which is a vision of release from bondage for a new creation, says the churchs web site.
The Goddess Rosary page on herchurch.org says that though God as Father plays an important role in Christian tradition, its exclusive emphasis... contributes to a limited understanding of God, an understanding that supports a domination structure that oppresses and subordinates women. Jesus used Abba as a revolutionary deconstruction of domination structures of his day in both religious and social institutions. The modern task is to do the same with Goddess.
Ebenezer, however, does not want to eradicate masculine images of God but to balance them with feminine images to confront the biblical texts, products of their day and cultures, for the blatant patriarchal biases and misogynist attitudes. And herchurch.org cites three Catholic theologians in support this confrontation: Harvards Elizabeth Schüssler Fiorenza, Fordham Universitys Sister Elizabeth Johnson, and Rosemary Radford Ruether (who will lecture students in the course, The History of God in Feminist Theological Discourse, at LAs Mount St. Marys College this spring.) Ruether calls the exclusive use of male imagery for God idolatry.
Herchurch.org offers a Hail Goddess prayer by feminist theologian Carol Christ, formerly of Harvard Divinity School but now director of the Ariadne Institute for Myth and Ritual in Greece. The prayer goes: Hail Goddess full of grace. Blessed are you and blessed are all the fruits of your womb. For you are the MOTHER of us all. Hear us now and in all our needs. O blessed be, O blessed be. Amen.
I felt that I had stepped into a Presence, like a mothers warm embrace, wrote Dalyn Cook of Ebenezers Goddess Rosary. The attendees were few in number, yet there was a sense of fullness in this welcoming space. I inhaled deeply the earthy scent of the incense, sending up delicate tendrils of smoke which curled around the altar in a nimbus visible against the warm rays of the evening sun filtering through the stained-glass windows....
From the basket of rosaries, I took into my hand a strand of vibrantly-colored beads with a silver goddess icon in place of the traditional cross. The goddesses came in a variety of shapes and sizes, celebrating the beauty of the feminine form; I found reflections of my own figure in the full hips and Rubenesque curves of my goddess, Cook wrote.
Jesus is not God. Jesus is the son of God the Father.
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You are either mormon or jehovah witness in your rejection of the deity of Christ Jesus our Lord??
wiccan phrase
I wouldnt't go into the dark woods with any of this coven.
The bible says very clearly that the dead are not dead. Its one of the biggest themes in the whole bible. There are many many places where the bible could simply state that we should ask for intercession from the dead but it never does. Rather it says many things about how wrong it is to speak with the dead, in any context.
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INDEED.
I’ve been reading you interpertation. Could you please throw me a bone about where people are “dead”? I’ve been laughed at by non-Catholics right here on FR because I said that my mother (passed on in 1989) watches over my daughters. They say, I am communicating with the dead. I say, she is very much alive in heaven (God willing)
What part of “eternal life in Christ” am I missing?
Just because a body dies, doesn’t mean a person does.
I’m asking you because you seem to be able to explain things better than I do.
Good points. Thx
Interesting thread in the same ballpark:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/1823091/posts
Jesus used Abba as a revolutionary deconstruction of domination structures of his day in both religious and social institutions.
Ah yes, heads will roll one day, lol
First of all, could a billion Hindus, or a billion Muslims be wrong for hundreds or thousands of years? What a carnal argument.
Exactly. That's my point. There is no basis for a heavenly family with a mother. Well I'm sure there is a basis in the RC imagination, just not in the bible.
Trying to make a joke shows me that you can't make a point.
Dear God help us
I wonder what they do when they get to this part?
“Oh, my Jesus, forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of Hell. Lead all souls to Heaven, especialy those in most need of thy mercy.”
Lots of Jihadi’s are hoping to help lots of heads roll.
Not realizing their heads will then be scheduled.
Notice if you will, how “ecology” is now elevated to prime importance. Coming soon to a little old NAU near you, Bill Clinton ensconced as high priest in Lucifer’s Temple in the UN, and our goddess earthmother, The HillaryBeast, in charge of 1/10th of us all..
Ebeneezer and herchurch.org are as representative of the ELCA as Westboro Baptist and Rev. Fred Phelps are representative of those affirming traditional sexual ethics.
Yes there is, an aging hippie who thinks she has something important to share with all of us. Definitely worse.
TOOOOOO TRUE.
THX.
There are numerous places throughout the Gospels where Jesus differentiates between those who are dead in sin and those who live in God. He talks over and over about what it means and what it takes to be raised to life... and not only about resurrection. He is referring to our Spiritual death that we suffered because of our first parents and our rising to life in Christ in our restoration to God's family. I like this particular passage on this subject:
Matt 22:31 Now, as for the dead rising to life: haven't you ever read what God has told you? He said, 32 "I am the God of Abraham, the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.' He is the God of the living, not of the dead."
I challenge anyone to argue that those who live in Christ in Heaven are the dead to which He refers.
Im asking you because you seem to be able to explain things better than I do.
Thank you very much for your encouragement!
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