Posted on 04/21/2007 1:13:02 PM PDT by Salvation
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Psalm 140:1-2 "I have cried to Thee, O Lord, hear me: hearken to my voice, when I cry to Thee. Let my prayer be directed as incense in Thy sight; the lifting up of my hands, as evening sacrifice."
Exodus 30:34-37 ... and its continued use was predicted, along with the Eucharistic offering, by Malachias: Malachias 1:11 Frankincense as a sign of His Divinity, and myrrh to portend His Passion and Death, were two of the three gifts the Magi brought to Baby Jesus -- Matthew 2:11 -- and as portended, myrrh, with its analgesic properties, was offered to Him on the Cross and was used, mixed with aloes, to annoint Him after death: Mark 15:22-23 Even the very angels in Heaven use incense, the smoke of which comes with the prayers of the Saints. Apocalypse 8:3-4
Incense is used during the Mass to bless the Altar when the priest first ascends to it, and, during the Offertory, to bless the bread and wine, the Crucifix and Altar (again), and the congregation.
Incense Use in the HomeThough stick and cone incense may be used during prayer and lectio divina, the classic way of using incense at your family altar is to use resin incense (like the priests use), which comes in large "grains," in a charcoal incense burner. Simply place a piece of charcoal in the burner, light it until it is glowing (it might spark at first), and place about a 1/2 a teaspoon or so of incense on top (not so much that the charcoal will be smothered). It is good to have a supply of those bamboo sticks that are used in making shishkabobs: they come in handy for lighting not only charcoal inside the burner, but for lighting tall pillar candles that've burned down deeply inside their glass holders. |
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Its not a thurible, its a “theemeeato” and it should always have twelve bells on it representing the 12 Apostles. Inside...Imperial Rose incense (the best!).
“LORD, I Have Cried Out Unto You: hear me! Hear me, O Lord!
Lord, I Have Cried Out Unto You: hear me! Receive the voice of my prayer!
When I call upon You, hear me, O Lord!
Let my prayer arise in Your sight as incense,
And let the lifting up of my hands be an evening sacrifice.
Hear me, O Lord!”
In the Byzantine Rite, the censers are VERY elaborate—some have icons and jewels on them. The chains are strung with bells, and the priest deliberately used the censer in such a way as to sweep incense far and wide and to ring those bells to call our attention to what he is doing: Making a holy gift to the Lord. We get incense and processions several times in every Liturgy, every Sunday. Cool, huh?
Today at daily Mass, we had a nutty fundamentalist Protestant stand up and yell that with all the candles and things, we were going directly to Hell for worshipping idols. The priest kept on with the Mass and the man left after being politely requested to do so by some parishioners. And we weren’t even using the real idol-worshipping stuff, the incense!
It is also used to incense the Book of the Gospels.
Incense is used at every Divine Liturgy celebrated in the Maronite Catholic Church. It is used to incense the Tabernacle during the chanting of the Salatoukee and always during Lent, for Stations of the Cross, to incense the Crucifix. It is also used on Good Friday to incense the shroud, containing the 'crucified Christ', carried in procession 3 times around the Church.
Here's a question. What is the title of the individual who leads the procession, swinging the thurible?
Redhead:
The chains are strung with bells, and the priest deliberately used the censer in such a way as to sweep incense far and wide and to ring those bells to call our attention to what he is doing:
Rumor has it that because the Byzantine and Orthodox Divine Liturgies were so long, people would occasionally fall asleep. To remedy this, the bells were strung onto the chains, to "call" their attention back to the sacred liturgy. Any truth to this?
Kolokotronis wrote:
When I call upon You, hear me, O Lord!
Let my prayer arise in Your sight as incense,
And let the lifting up of my hands be an evening sacrifice.
Psalm 141:1-2. It is part of the Ramsho (evening) prayers of the Maronite Divine Office.
Lol ... you're kidding!!! Father should have invited him to remain so he could explain it to him. Oh boy, I would have jumped on that opportunity.
I think he's the "thurifer."
I live in the south and there’s a lot of this stuff here. There’s another man, sort of like the Fred Phelps, who drives a beat up old van painted with signs that say “The Lord Kills,” “Death and Pits of Fire for Sinners,” etc. He always tries to park the thing right in front of the doors of the Cathedral.
A couple of weeks ago we were having a procession and I saw him circling the block, looking for a parking space. The press was going to be there and I knew he wanted to be in the photo, or at least block the procession from getting photographs. A space opened up and I went and stood in it until I saw a normal human being who wanted it. He kept circling and then halted because he saw two elderly parishioners getting into their car to leave...I ran across the street and asked them to stay until he moved on. They did, and finally he couldn’t take the people honking behind him any more and he pulled away. Then the procession came out and he had missed his chance to do his little bit to ruin it. Hah!
Sometimes it’s funny, but sometimes it gets a little annoying, too.
I thrive on challenge but these antics are particularly annoying. Is he a member of any particular congregation?
The zealot in the van is probably a congregation of one - and he’s its pastor...
The other thing that puzzles me is why he thinks anyone would be attracted to the message “The Lord Kills.” This is scattered in among rather violent Bible verses and exhortations to read the Bible, which he has painted on his truck in black and red. Sounds like a real way to win people over, right?
But we get others just passing through who feel the call to leave a few tracts in the pews about how Catholics are going to Hell, etc. They’re actually rather amusing, because their complete misunderstanding of the Catholic religion and their ideas about our practices are so far off in outer space. I can’t imagine what they’d do if they saw an Orthodox or Byzantine rite church!
You should gather a few of these together and post them on a vanity thread. We can then do the apologetics for forum members who also believe this nonsense. Just think ... it would then be you who is doing the 'soul saving' :-)
Faith-sharing bump.
**and it should always have twelve bells on it representing the 12 Apostles. **
This I never knew. Thanks.
I remember our priest in a pre-Vatican II having one like that! Wow!
I have never heard of anyone doing that at a daily Mass — unbelievable.
However, at our Healing Mass this last week, someone took a host and did not eat it and then did not know exactly what to do with the precious blood.
One of our parishioners witnessed the whole thing and asked our priest if she could get his permission to go recover it. He did give her permission and she did recover it — still stuck in the pages of his Bible. Bet he doesn’t try that one again!
Sounds like you saved the day, so to speak!
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