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Pope Set to Make Mark on U.S. Church
Guardian Unlimited ^ | April 12, 2007 | ERIC GORSKI (AP Religion Writer)

Posted on 04/13/2007 6:54:57 AM PDT by Frank Sheed

Two years into his reign, Pope Benedict XVI is finally poised to make a major mark on American Catholicism with a string of key bishop appointments and important decisions about the future of U.S. seminaries and bishops' involvement in politics.

Benedict's election on April 19, 2005, shook liberals and comforted conservatives who expected a doctrinal hard-liner. So far, they have found an easier hand - and someone who has not made the United States much of a priority.

When Benedict has gained attention, it has mostly been on the world stage, focusing on the re-Christianization of Europe, Islam and mending relations with Orthodox Christians. He also has stressed universal themes of faith and reason.

``The last two years have been much quieter years as far as the papacy is concerned because you have a very different personality'' than John Paul II, said Monsignor Robert Wister, chairman of the church history department at Seton Hall University's School of Theology.

``Many Americans were surprised - some happily, some disappointed - that he did not turn into the pit bull of dogma. He is taking a very pastoral approach, and I think people resonate very positively with that.''

Yet America's turn may be coming. At the top of the list is a looming generational shift among the nation's bishops, whose decisions at the local level greatly affect Catholics in the pews and can carry national weight. For instance, church leaders recently closed parishes in Boston and New York, while the St. Louis archbishop has clashed with a heavily Polish parish over control of its assets.

Key appointments are expected in New York, Baltimore and Detroit, where cardinals have reached retirement age - 75. And retirements or appointments are likely in at least seven other archdioceses...

(Excerpt) Read more at guardian.co.uk ...


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To: Monkey Face; Tax-chick; sionnsar; NicknamedBob; Dead Corpse

Good Morning!

Toomuchworktododriveby.....


2,321 posted on 05/29/2007 9:46:38 AM PDT by rottndog (This Tagline currently closed for maintenance and rehabilitation.)
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To: Monkey Face
Kurweil is noted for taking things to extremes. His pushing of the "Singularity" theory of human information/evolution has a tendency to make people look at some of his far fetched pronouncements with almost the same askance that UFO kooks get.

His excitement for the possibilities of the future sometimes over-rides logic and enters the realm of pure fantasy.

2,322 posted on 05/29/2007 9:48:27 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Dead Corpse

I suspect he just wants to get noticed. Kinda like a kid making a lot of noise in class. I’m not any more impressed...

Actually, I’m more impressed with YOUR ideas than his.


2,323 posted on 05/29/2007 9:51:09 AM PDT by Monkey Face (If at first you don't succeed, failure may be your thing. ~~ George Burns)
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To: rottndog

Hurry back!


2,324 posted on 05/29/2007 9:51:26 AM PDT by Monkey Face (If at first you don't succeed, failure may be your thing. ~~ George Burns)
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To: Monkey Face
I've received none.

That may be more a matter of timescale and optimism than anything. His theories rely entirely too much on "perfect execution" in regards to his suppositions. Information noise, world conflict, or even possible environmental calamity could cause major set backs in the progress towards Singularity. Further, the informational singularity may not be what we think it is nor will its effects be devoid of "unintended consequences" both good and bad.

I think my theories "look" better because I think "closer in" on the timescale. A lot of the things I come up with are in some form "do-able".

2,325 posted on 05/29/2007 10:16:55 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: Monkey Face
Actually, I’m more impressed with YOUR ideas than his.

That may be more a matter of timescale and optimism than anything. His theories rely entirely too much on "perfect execution" in regards to his suppositions. Information noise, world conflict, or even possible environmental calamity could cause major set backs in the progress towards Singularity. Further, the informational singularity may not be what we think it is nor will its effects be devoid of "unintended consequences" both good and bad.

I think my theories "look" better because I think "closer in" on the timescale. A lot of the things I come up with are in some form "do-able".

Dang copy/paste. Proxy here at work is giving us fits. Makes refreshing webpages and submitting posts difficult.

2,326 posted on 05/29/2007 10:17:58 AM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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To: NicknamedBob; Tax-chick; Professional Engineer
It may come in handy when he journeys to Alpha Centauri.

Hugh so phunny

2,327 posted on 05/29/2007 10:18:35 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (Don't blame me, I voted for Hatch.)
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To: Dead Corpse

I know your thoughts and ideas are well thought out. It shows when you post them.

They are also easier to understand. :o])


2,328 posted on 05/29/2007 10:35:01 AM PDT by Monkey Face (If at first you don't succeed, failure may be your thing. ~~ George Burns)
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To: Professional Engineer

And beta, and gamma.


2,329 posted on 05/29/2007 10:37:05 AM PDT by Tax-chick ("Is there any extra food around here anywhere?")
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To: Tax-chick

He needs to learn about the really cool ones. Delta, phi, theta, omega. And the giant bad boy pi.


2,330 posted on 05/29/2007 10:54:11 AM PDT by Professional Engineer (Don't blame me, I voted for Hatch.)
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To: sionnsar

bump for later perusal.


2,331 posted on 05/29/2007 11:22:19 AM PDT by Aloysius88 (I used to be the different drummer.)
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To: Aloysius88

Man, 1 post to the thread in the last year and I killed it. I’m sorry. Come back.


2,332 posted on 05/29/2007 12:28:36 PM PDT by Aloysius88 (I used to be the different drummer.)
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To: Aloysius88

Man, 1 post to the thread in the last year and I killed it. I’m sorry. Come back.


2,333 posted on 05/29/2007 12:28:40 PM PDT by Aloysius88 (I used to be the different drummer.)
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To: Aloysius88

And a double post at that.


2,334 posted on 05/29/2007 12:29:31 PM PDT by Aloysius88 (I used to be the different drummer.)
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To: Aloysius88

Hey, guys. This isn’t funny. Come back. I promise not to cause trouble. I feel like I interrupted a secret meeting. I’ll be good. I promise.


2,335 posted on 05/29/2007 1:43:22 PM PDT by Aloysius88 (I used to be the different drummer.)
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To: Professional Engineer

One letter at a time. Writing is difficult for Pat, since he’s only 5, so it takes him quite a while to make a page of gammas.


2,336 posted on 05/29/2007 2:10:57 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Is there any extra food around here anywhere?")
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To: Aloysius88

Good afternoon! How are you? It’s hot here. My oldest daughter is going to a concert tonight (high school chorus) and my two oldest boys are going on a Cessna flight.

I’ll be here washing up and doing laundry, and hopefully catching up with my Undead FRiends when most of the Offspring have retired.


2,337 posted on 05/29/2007 2:12:14 PM PDT by Tax-chick ("Is there any extra food around here anywhere?")
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To: Aloysius88; Monkey Face; NicknamedBob; Tax-chick; tuliptree76

LOL — it’s hard to kill the Undead Thread! Just when you thing you have it safely buried, it comes back to life... er, semi-life... er, undead... er, never mind.


2,338 posted on 05/29/2007 2:14:08 PM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: sionnsar; Aloysius88

I think it’s dead now.


2,339 posted on 05/29/2007 2:25:49 PM PDT by sionnsar (trad-anglican.faithweb.com |Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: sionnsar
Having trouble posting. FR dropped out on me for a while there. There are a couple of routers out between here and California, so this could be lending itself to the problem.

Of course, our network guys could have their heads up their behinds again too...

2,340 posted on 05/29/2007 2:31:57 PM PDT by Dead Corpse (What would a free man do?)
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