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In order to make it easier to keep some other threads on topic, let's start one on Mary.

We believe that Mary is special to us, not divine, but very special. Please read the article before commenting. Thanks.

1 posted on 04/05/2007 11:10:12 AM PDT by MarkBsnr
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Honestly, from my end (Anglican/Protestant background), I've never heard anyone complain about the statement that "Mary is the Mother of God", it is always theological differences regarding Mary being an intercessory to God (like the Saints) and the rightness in praying directly to Mary or the Saints.
I'm going to have to keep my ears open more to hear the comments about the "Mother of God" complaint.. I may have just missed it....
2 posted on 04/05/2007 11:19:41 AM PDT by mnehring (McCain '08 -------------------------------------- just kidding...)
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Fundamentalists are sometimes horrified when the Virgin Mary is referred to as the Mother of God. However, their reaction often rests upon a misapprehension of what this particular title of Mary signifies, and what the Protestant Reformers had to say regarding this doctrine.

So is the author trying to make a distinction between two groups - Fundamentalists, and Protestant Reformers - or does the author intend to use the phrases interchangeably?

To avoid this conclusion, Fundamentalists often assert that Mary did not carry God in her womb, but only carried Christ’s human nature.

One has to assume that the author, in using the moniker "Fundamentalists" is also referring to Protestant Reformers. And to say that "Protestant Reformers often assert that Mary...only carried Christ’s human nature" is both laughable and libel.

I assume you were sincere in attempting to engage Protestants in a dialog about Mary being the "Mother of God". Still, you couldn't have picked a worse article to start things off. Good luck keeping your thread civil - you're going to need it.

4 posted on 04/05/2007 11:24:16 AM PDT by Alex Murphy
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Whether Mary is the mother of God is a pointless discussion. The Bible makes no reference to this concept perhaps because we are incapable of really understanding the relationship between the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Having a thorough understanding of the Bible is difficult enough without adding man created concepts to confuse things.


5 posted on 04/05/2007 11:25:41 AM PDT by Always Right
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Fundamentalists are sometimes horrified when the Virgin Mary is referred to as the Mother of God.

Not this one.

9 posted on 04/05/2007 11:27:44 AM PDT by Gamecock (Ecclesia reformata, semper reformanda secundum verbum Dei)
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Fundamentalists often assert that Mary did not carry God in her womb, but only carried Christ’s human nature

Your source must be talking to those other fundamentalists. None I've ever read has said anything quite so silly. Christ was fully man and fully God at all times and was born of a virgin. To believe otherwise is to not be a Christian.

We also think Mary is very special. All generations will, after all, call her Blessed.

10 posted on 04/05/2007 11:29:59 AM PDT by jboot (If I can't get a Josiah, I'll settle for a Jehu)
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LOL in the time it took me to craft my reply someone came along to make a liar of me! I stand corrected.

Scampers hurredly away....

13 posted on 04/05/2007 11:32:53 AM PDT by jboot (If I can't get a Josiah, I'll settle for a Jehu)
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I have heard the argument about "Mother of God" but I think it was more heated in centuries past.

The idea of "immaculate conception" gets dicey -- especially when theologians begin introducing terms such as DNA in their writings -- such as the one you posted. If Mary supplied all the genetic material for a fetus -- then she gave birth to a clone of herself.

I personally believe that she gave birth to an unusual child who had a direct connection to God. That makes her the mother of god's child -- or mother of god here on earth.

14 posted on 04/05/2007 11:33:53 AM PDT by Sleeping Beauty
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If one believes that Jesus is God, then Mary is the mother of God. Those that believe Jesus is not God, then Mary is the mother of Jesus. It is what it is.


42 posted on 04/05/2007 12:04:49 PM PDT by ex-snook ("But above all things, truth beareth away the victory.")
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There is no way out of this logical syllogism,

God does not submit to Mary. The term mother must imply pre existion offspring, that is not the case here either. Titles mean things yet God has never given Mary this title, nor any of the other hundreds of titles ascribed to her by the RCC.

48 posted on 04/05/2007 12:23:22 PM PDT by DungeonMaster (Render therefore to Caesar the things that are Caesar's, and to God the things that are God's.)
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32A crowd was sitting around him, and they told him, “Your mother and brothers are outside looking for you.”

33”Who are my mother and my brothers?” he asked.

34Then he looked at those seated in a circle around him and said, “Here are my mother and my brothers!

I have my answer, what do you do with these verse?

79 posted on 04/05/2007 2:41:00 PM PDT by ThomasThomas ( _/|\_)
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Fundamentalists often assert that Mary did not carry God in her womb, but only carried Christ’s human nature. This assertion reinvents a heresy from the fifth century known as Nestorianism,

I have never heard this one! I sure don't believe that.

92 posted on 04/05/2007 6:29:02 PM PDT by ladyinred
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99 posted on 04/05/2007 7:59:18 PM PDT by narses ("Freedom is about authority." - Rudolph Giuliani)
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Mary, Mother of God

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MARIAN DEVOTION - Akathist Hymn to the Mother of God

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Mary: True Mother of God

104 posted on 04/06/2007 12:38:17 AM PDT by Salvation (" With God all things are possible. ")
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Y'all are so silly to argue over this. The only reason to carry on is to satisfy the need to bump heads.

No one in here is going to sway anyone else.

I already know what I know, and you think you know what you believe.

:-p

116 posted on 04/06/2007 5:59:30 PM PDT by bannie
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Mary sure is special to us Catholics. In a way, I feel sorry for all the fundamentalists who forego her powerful intercession.

I’m happy to have her on my side.


160 posted on 04/09/2007 11:38:12 AM PDT by Palladin (Jordin will be the AI this year.)
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168 posted on 04/09/2007 2:26:22 PM PDT by murphE (These are days when the Christian is expected to praise every creed but his own. --G.K. Chesterton)
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God has no mother. He has no beginning and no end. Mary was the mother of Christ incarnate. He needed that to become SON of man and take on our form through her. No more, no less.


199 posted on 04/26/2007 7:02:07 AM PDT by OccamsRazz
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