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Catholic and Protestant Bibles: What is the Difference?
Catholic Exchange.com ^ | 02-06-07 | Mary Harwell Sayler

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Catholic and Protestant Bibles: What is the Difference?

March 6, 2007

Question: What's the difference between a Catholic Bible and a Protestant one? Is our Old Testament the same as a Jewish Bible? If not, why?

Answer: The most noticeable differences occur in the number of books included and the order in which they have been arranged. Both the Jewish Bible and the Hebrew canon in a Protestant Bible (aka Old Testament) contain 39 books, whereas a Catholic Bible contains 46 books in the Old Testament. In addition, the Greek Orthodox, or Eastern Orthodox, Church accepts a few more books as canonized scripture.

To give you a quick overview of a complicated subject, here's what happened: Several hundred years before the birth of Christ, Babylonian conquerors forced the Jews to leave Jerusalem. Away from their Temple and, often, from their priests, the exiled people forgot how to read, write, and speak Hebrew. After a while, Jewish scholars wanted to make the Bible accessible again, so they translated Hebrew scriptures into the Greek language commonly spoken. Books of wisdom and histories about the period were added, too, eventually becoming so well known that Jesus and the earliest Christian writers were familiar with them. Like the original Hebrew scriptures, the Greek texts, which were known as the Septuagint, were not in a codex or book form as we're accustomed to now but were handwritten on leather or parchment scrolls and rolled up for ease in storage.

 Eventually, the Jewish exiles were allowed to return to Jerusalem where they renovated the Temple. Then, in A.D. 70, warring peoples almost completely destroyed the sacred structure, which has never been rebuilt. Without this central place of worship, the Jews began looking to the Bible as their focal point of faith, but to assure the purity of that faith, only Hebrew scriptures were allowed into the Jewish canon. By then, however, the earliest Christians spoke and read Greek, so they continued to use the Septuagint or Greek version of the Bible for many centuries. After the Reformation though, some Christians decided to accept translations into Latin then English only from the Hebrew texts that the Jewish Bible contained, so the seven additional books in the Greek translation became known as the Apocrypha, meaning "hidden." Since the books themselves were no secret, the word seemed ironic or, perhaps, prophetic because, in 1947, an Arab boy searching for a lost goat found, instead, the Dead Sea scrolls, hidden in a hillside cave.

Interestingly, the leather scrolls had been carefully wrapped in linen cloth, coated in pitch, and placed in airtight pottery jars about ten inches across and two feet high where, well-preserved, they remained for many centuries. Later, other caves in the same area yielded similar finds with hundreds of manuscripts no longer hidden. Indeed, the oldest copies of the Bible now known to exist are the Dead Sea scrolls of the Septuagint.

Because of this authentic find from antiquity, many publishers in the twentieth century added back the books of Tobit, Judith, Wisdom, Ecclesiasticus, Baruch, First and Second Maccabees, as well as additions to Esther and Daniel. So now, when an edition of the Bible says "with Apocrypha" on the cover, the extra books from the Septuagint will usually be placed between the Old and New Testaments or at the end of the Bible. Catholic Bibles already contained those books, however, so you'll find them interwoven with other Old Testament books of history and wisdom writings. 

For the New Testament, it's a different story — and short. All of the books were written in Greek or Aramaic from the start. Although some debate occurred about which Gospels or Epistles should be included, all Christians eventually accepted all of the same 27 books in the same order. So, as long as you choose an edition that does not add explanatory notes opposed to a Catholic perspective, any reputable translation of the New Testament is fine.



TOPICS: Catholic; Evangelical Christian; Judaism; Mainline Protestant
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To: Mr. Lucky; Alamo-Girl
Not too soon though, right?

God calls the shots. Early Christians would welcome 'the sooner the better' option. I think we have learned how to love the world since then.

861 posted on 03/16/2007 3:24:11 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50; All; Dr. Eckleburg; Mad Dawg; HarleyD; Alex Murphy; ScubieNuc; wmfights; hosepipe; ...

So . . .

let me get this as straight as the crooked pseudo "logic" will allow . . .

Your construction on assumed, pretend reality is that Paul missed it by many country miles and was wholesale wrong in his scripting of the NT in many places.

Nevertheless, Protesties should be hauled up short on 286 of Paul's words just because RC's think it's convenient and fun to do.

Did I get that right?

# # # # # # #

I'm sure St Paul is getting a lot of laughs with that one in Heaven . . . unless they're too stunned at the incredulity of it.

Ohhhhhh, that's rich. Sooooooooo cute.

LOL
ROTFLOL
GTTM

SMHSHMLNIBMC [Shaking My Head So Hard My Long Nose Is Brusing My Cheeks]

SMHSHMEACAB [Shaking My Head So Hard My Ears Are Creating A Breeze]

ROTFLOLSHTICIJAITTB [Rolling On The Floor Laughing Out Loud So Hard The Ice Cream I Just Ate Is Turning To Butter]

ROTFLOLSHTNWMTTTTVLTVD [Rolling On The Floor Laughing Out Loud So Hard The Neighbors Want Me To Turn The TV Laugh Tract Volume Down]



Did I get that right?


862 posted on 03/16/2007 3:34:40 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS ABLE; LOVE GOD WHOLLY, HIM & HIS KINGDOM 1ST)
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To: Kitty Mittens
It's always a joy to fellowship with you, KM. 8~)

"Unless the LORD had been my help, my soul had almost dwelt in silence.

When I said, My foot slippeth; thy mercy, O LORD, held me up.

In the multitude of my thoughts within me thy comforts delight my soul." -- Psalms 94:17-19


863 posted on 03/16/2007 3:35:27 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Quix
ROTFLOLSHTNWMTTTTVLTVD

LOLOL.

864 posted on 03/16/2007 3:37:30 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: kosta50

Oh, that's right . . . how could I forget.

If anyone early or late

is not 1,110% identical with the theology in your mirror, then they are 1,110% gnostic apostates etc. etc. etc. etc. and etc.

LOL.


865 posted on 03/16/2007 3:39:17 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS ABLE; LOVE GOD WHOLLY, HIM & HIS KINGDOM 1ST)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Thx Thx.

For some things, GTTM is just too anemic.


866 posted on 03/16/2007 3:41:32 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS ABLE; LOVE GOD WHOLLY, HIM & HIS KINGDOM 1ST)
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To: kosta50

I Know the Textus Receptus isn't Very Popular Anymore, but it is my Favorite because our Lord has Used Translations of it to Bless Generations of His Beloved Children.


867 posted on 03/16/2007 4:05:21 PM PDT by Kitty Mittens (To God Be All Excellent Praise!)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Thank you, my Sister in Sovereign Grace!

Now Unto the King Eternal, Immortal, Invisible, the Only Wise God,
Be Honor and Glory Forever and Ever, amen.
(1Tim.1:17)

868 posted on 03/16/2007 4:16:30 PM PDT by Kitty Mittens (To God Be All Excellent Praise!)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Quix; Alamo-Girl; HarleyD; Kitty Mittens
You've maintained we read different Bibles on this thread, and I'm beginning to believe you

Thank you. Of course, we do. My Bible has Isa 55:8-9 that says For "My thoughts are not your thoughts, nor are your ways My ways," declares the LORD. "For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so are My ways higher than your ways and My thoughts than your thoughts".

With all do respect to the Apostle, our minds are not those of Christ, as I am sure +Paul did not mean it that way.

He used a quote from Septuagint, Isaiah 40, which, in context, reads like this:

Obviosuly, Paul used it in a different context, attaching a different meaning to it.

There is nothing in the original (Isaiah) that would suggest we have the mind of God.

But what is REALLY fascinating, the Jewish (Hebrew) bible doesn't even have the word 'mind' in verse 13!

It says "Who meted [measured] the spirit of the Lord, and His adviser who informs Him?"

So, now not only is Paul quoting from a different Scripture (Septuagint OT) while you read the Hebrew version, and not only is the conext of the quote completely different of 1 Cor 2:16, but your version doesn't even have the word "mind" in it.

Isn't reading Scriptures with a mind more fun?

869 posted on 03/16/2007 4:21:03 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: Kitty Mittens
our Lord has Used Translations of it to Bless Generations of His Beloved Childre

I have non doubt that our Lord doesn't need anyone's translation to bless His Chirldren. TR is based on two 12th century Greek texts of dubious quality.

870 posted on 03/16/2007 4:25:05 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: Quix

You are so very amusing.


871 posted on 03/16/2007 4:29:26 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kosta50

I Agree with you that He doesn't Need it; He just Decreed to Use it, because it was His Sovereign Will to Do So.


872 posted on 03/16/2007 4:51:36 PM PDT by Kitty Mittens (To God Be All Excellent Praise!)
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To: kawaii
Frankly I do not respect opinions which contradict either or both Holy Tradition and Holy Scripture especially when it comes to folks who espouse 'scripture alone' yet invent rationales to bypass what scripture demands.

The lack of respect for others beliefs is evident. You have accomplished your goals.

873 posted on 03/16/2007 4:52:25 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: Alex Murphy

I know there are 800+ posts but I just browsed the first few comments and saw this one:

"Catholic and Protestant Bibles: What is the Difference?
Ours get read?"

I'm Catholic and read my Bible but this made me laugh out loud!! :o)


874 posted on 03/16/2007 5:13:34 PM PDT by samiam1972 (http://imrunningforpresident.blogspot.com/)
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To: Kitty Mittens
He just Decreed to Use it, because it was His Sovereign Will to Do So

Christ decreed Textus Receptus? When did He do that?

875 posted on 03/16/2007 5:31:53 PM PDT by kosta50 (Eastern Orthodoxy is pure Christianity)
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To: kawaii
Why split hairs with heretics?

We try and carry the gospel to everyone, even your sect that has drifted so far away.

876 posted on 03/16/2007 5:39:20 PM PDT by wmfights (LUKE 9:49-50 , MARK 9:38-41)
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To: kosta50

Whatever to allow a dodging of the issues! LOL.


877 posted on 03/16/2007 6:06:02 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS ABLE; LOVE GOD WHOLLY, HIM & HIS KINGDOM 1ST)
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To: ladyinred

The lack of respect for others beliefs is evident. You have accomplished your goals.
= = =

Well put. imho.


878 posted on 03/16/2007 6:07:07 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS ABLE; LOVE GOD WHOLLY, HIM & HIS KINGDOM 1ST)
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To: wmfights

INDEED.

And in South and Central America--they've been doing it rather successfully.

The God who's real and moves dramatically in the affairs of His children wins hands down over fossilized edifice and dry husk traditions every time.


879 posted on 03/16/2007 6:08:45 PM PDT by Quix (GOD ALONE IS WORTHY; PAID THE PRICE; IS ABLE; LOVE GOD WHOLLY, HIM & HIS KINGDOM 1ST)
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To: kawaii

I was raised Roman Catholic, dropped away from the Catholic Church and became Methodist. Since then I became disillusioned with "mainstream" Protestant Churches - Episcopalian, Methodist, Presbyterian, Lutheran and some Baptists. They have become diluted with secular humanism, moral relativism and beliefs that stray from those of their own founding fathers.

But the problem is not so much with the individuals as the institutions. Even the Catholic Church as an institution has had problems. Even the Jewish Faith has problems keeping its followers orthodox. We all have problems.

But the real problem is that we as a cultural group are driffting away from basic scriptures and the foundation principles of Christianity - principles which all Christians originally followed but have become dliuted by cultural and moral relativism, secular humanism and poltical correctness.

Does God really care what date we celebrate Easter and Christmas? Does he care what secondary books we choose to include in our sacred books or not? Does he care if our rituals are in Greek, or Aramaic, or Latin or Old Church Slavonic? I don't think so.

I think Christians of all faith have FAR more in common with each other - and with Judaism - than we do with any other belief systems and more than we have differences.
Orthodox Jews and Christians both have their roots in the Old Testament. Jews believe the Messiah is coming. We believe He has come and will come again.

And that commonality is being threatened by a dangerous aggressive menace that should be dealt with in unison by us all as we would treat a man-eating tiger.


880 posted on 03/16/2007 8:13:47 PM PDT by ZULU (Non nobis, non nobis Domine, sed nomini tuo da gloriam. God, guts and guns made America great.)
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