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From A Catholic Hippy To A Baptist Preacher
Berean Beacon ^

Posted on 02/08/2007 9:06:56 AM PST by Gamecock

FROM A CATHOLIC HIPPY TO A BAPTIST PREACHER is our video for the week. This interview was made recently in Groton NY. The transition from bring a longhaired hippy to being accepted in Christ Jesus is really remarkable. Please inform your friends about the new video, and let us have your comments or better still post them on the Google site.

What a great testimony.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Current Events; Ecumenism; Ministry/Outreach
KEYWORDS: baptist; hippy
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To: Gamecock
It's interesting that you see so much bitterness among ex Catholics while most say that former Proddies who go into RCism have fond memories of their former faith. I've seen that said numerous times on FR and on other boards as well. It's almost like the former smokers, drug addicts and others are especially hard on those who remain trapped in that lifestyle.

Nothing like poisoning the well, now, is there?

41 posted on 02/08/2007 12:22:33 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: bethelgrad
I wasn't very well cathechized, but I know why I left the church, and no Catholic can tell me that reasons I left are because I misunderstood the faith relative to those reasons. My parents were even more poorly catechized than I was. My Mother has no idea that the Immaculate Conception refers to the conception of Mary, and I'm not going to tell her because I don't want to cause her to doubt. She doesn't worship Mary, her First Person is Jesus, same with my Father and my brothers.

My Mother also has no idea what infallibility is all about, neither does my Father. That's not their fault, it's the fault of a Church that had insufficient regard for the People of God. The only slack I'll give the Catholic church in this regard is that WWII intervened, but my Father was 17 when that happened, and my Mom 11. My Father should have been better catechized, and catechesis for my Mom and all of her peers could have been picked up on by the Church after '45, but when you're used to dictating what's what to a group of people, the incentive to go the extra mile just isn't there.

My parents and my brothers love and follow Our Lord, it is quite likely that if anyone is the goat, it's me.

42 posted on 02/08/2007 12:24:38 PM PST by AlbionGirl
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To: jo kus
The fact of the matter is that it is perfectly human and natural for someone to belittle or even treat harshly an organization in which a person had left on bad terms.

My husband did not leave the RCC "on bad terms."

He fled the RCC, by the grace of God alone.

very few Catholics who leave Catholicism actually knew the teachings of the Church

lol. I can understand why you would want that to be so. But evidence is to the contrary. In my husband's case, 14 years of catholic education was profoundly instructive.

He knows of what you speak.

43 posted on 02/08/2007 12:28:19 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Gamecock

It's been fun. 8~)


44 posted on 02/08/2007 12:29:29 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: bethelgrad
First Person is Jesus, same with my Father and my brothers.

I don't want to be misunderstood here because of my poor choice of words. When I wrote First Person, I meant that Christ is the first person they run to in prayer.

About a month ago, I had to take my Mom to Roswell for a checkup. I got caught in a traffic jam that caused me to be 45 minutes late. I'm always on time, so my parents started to panic. When I walked in the door, my Father started crying and thanking Jesus that I was safe. Four hours later when I returned from Roswell, he was still praying to Our Lord and crying. When I used to come home from college, he would wait for me at the end of the driveway, with tears in his eyes. I expected everyone to love me like that. Pretty stupid, huh?

45 posted on 02/08/2007 12:29:50 PM PST by AlbionGirl
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To: blue-duncan; Gamecock
and does his church have a bus ministry?

Why do buses need the Gospel?

46 posted on 02/08/2007 12:31:17 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; blue-duncan; Gamecock
Why do buses need the Gospel?

True story. When we lived in Arlington, VA wife heard a knock on the door. Two middle-aged men offered to take our four-year-old son to church in their bus ministry.

Wife just looked at them and wondered why anyone in their right mind would send a child off with two strange men.

She figgered they went off talking about that horrible woman who wouldn't let her child go to church.

47 posted on 02/08/2007 12:34:07 PM PST by Corin Stormhands (James Lileks: Rudy, He'll nuke 'em if he has to.)
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To: Gamecock; jo kus; Dr. Eckleburg
Nothing like poisoning the well now is there.....

I don't 'spose telling about my father witnessing his brother being beat with a rubber hose by a priest (other atrocities witnessed as well) at the orphanage they lived in would make a difference, would it?

That would only be taken as evidence that it was emotional and not theological.

However, it is also possible that it was God's way to have my father begin to think theologically about theological shortcomings of the RCC. From Dad's perspective, this is the case.

I get the same story from my uncle, his brother, but he did not leave the RCC. His son did, though, and finally, my octogenarian uncle is questioning.

48 posted on 02/08/2007 12:36:24 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: Corin Stormhands
Two middle-aged men offered to take our four-year-old son to church in their bus ministry.

They were either:

1) Up to NO GOOD AT ALL.

2) Really, REALLY naive ... and not very bright.

49 posted on 02/08/2007 12:36:40 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: xzins

It's also possible that it was satan's way of using an evil person's evil behaviour to cloud your Father's ability to see the Truth taught by the Catholic Church.


50 posted on 02/08/2007 12:40:32 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

"Why do buses need the Gospel?"

It's a mystery, what can I tell ya, it's just a mystery known only to a few Fundamentalist and Independant KJV only Baptist Pastors. I think it has something to do with an extension of the "all of creation groaning" thing and letting the buses know that the time of their curse is almost over.


51 posted on 02/08/2007 12:51:07 PM PST by blue-duncan
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To: AlbionGirl
In his letter to the Romans, St. Paul says, “I am not ashamed of the Gospel; it is the power of God for salvation for everyone who has faith.” (Rom. 1:16) Obviously even in that time too there was the temptation to be ashamed of the Gospel. For the Jews it was a scandal and for the Greeks, stupidity. (1 Cor. 1:22-25) Paul writes to the Galatians, “I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and turning to a different gospel...”…I think we must repeat this cry of the Apostle again in our times.

Amen, AG.

Chateau d'If...

lol. Quite like it, minus the beard. 8~)

Wasn't that a great movie? Especially the balloon scene.


52 posted on 02/08/2007 12:52:03 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: xzins
I don't 'spose telling about my father witnessing his brother being beat with a rubber hose by a priest (other atrocities witnessed as well) at the orphanage they lived in would make a difference, would it?

That would only be taken as evidence that it was emotional and not theological.

Good post.

The thing is, that by default it was theological too. It was ecclesial terror, and it was not contained to just a few people, and if you were lower class without the ability to apply any leverage, no priest or monsignor would come to your aid.

I wonder how many kids thought to themselves, maybe if I write to the pope, he can get me out of this. But, for the kids I grew up with at least, taking one look at the face of PPaul VI told you he wouldn't liberate you from anything. No kid that I ever knew felt warmth for the pope. The only pope I ever had any affection for was JPII. I was really moved by his death, and the reason I had some affection for him is that I did see love in his face, and he looked a lot like my Father.

53 posted on 02/08/2007 12:56:10 PM PST by AlbionGirl
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To: ArrogantBustard

Not at all, just an observation


54 posted on 02/08/2007 12:56:42 PM PST by Gamecock (Ecclesia reformata, semper reformanda secundum verbum Dei)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; blue-duncan
Why do buses need the Gospel?

Many, many, many years ago, the Wittenburg Door had a story about a pentecostal church that held a fund-raising car wash.

Church members were surprised to find that, after being washed, some of the cars started "speaking in horns".

55 posted on 02/08/2007 12:58:55 PM PST by Alex Murphy
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To: Gamecock

No sale.


56 posted on 02/08/2007 12:59:47 PM PST by ArrogantBustard (Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
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To: blue-duncan; Gamecock; AlbionGirl; Alex Murphy; irishtenor
"Proper Presbyterians use our Kilts"

NEVER MIND! Oh never mind, please, please, never mind!

Covetous of the kilt? Duncan has a lovely tartan.

Or perhaps you prefer the ancient Duncan tartan...


57 posted on 02/08/2007 1:05:30 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: AlbionGirl; ArrogantBustard; Gamecock; Dr. Eckleburg

You know what, AlbG, I've always loved my Catholic uncle and, of course, my Baptist dad. But, the story is true, and confirmed. Nothing more to say about it other than the effect it had has lasted 70+ years.

Having both of them (and their sisters) in my life mitigated the report my father gave. Arrogant Bustard talks of the evil that one man caused, and he's right about that.

But, that is theological. "What the hell is that guy up to?" when it is a Church Leader (priest) being discussed, IS a theological question.

My dad was baptized Catholic as an infant. He clearly is now a dyed-in-the-wool Baptist.

A good theological question is: "Is he still a Roman Catholic?"


58 posted on 02/08/2007 1:12:54 PM PST by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: AlbionGirl
When I used to come home from college, he would wait for me at the end of the driveway, with tears in his eyes. I expected everyone to love me like that. Pretty stupid, huh?

Think how fortunate you are. So many people never know that love. 8~)

59 posted on 02/08/2007 1:12:55 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Very good, Dr. E.

Duncan looks so very fine.

It was much better when the term for finding someone attractive was fine. "She's so fine, he's so fine." So much classier than hot, which conveys none of the refinement that goes into to thinking of someone as fine.

60 posted on 02/08/2007 1:14:28 PM PST by AlbionGirl
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