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1 posted on 01/02/2007 6:42:24 PM PST by sionnsar
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Guessing: 6: Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life; no one comes to the Father, but by me.”

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2 posted on 01/02/2007 6:44:52 PM PST by sionnsar (†trad-anglican.faithweb.com†|Iran Azadi| 5yst3m 0wn3d - it's N0t Y0ur5 (SONY) | UN: Useless Nations)
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To: sionnsar

That jumped out at me too.


3 posted on 01/02/2007 6:53:00 PM PST by alnick
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Mr. Certain left out the second half of verse 6

Interesting...

7 posted on 01/02/2007 7:31:17 PM PST by Alex Murphy
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I hope you caught the symbolically terribly significant occurrence right before the sermon in the National Cathedral started,

First -- I don't remember Dr. Harmon or anyt other bloggers being asked to officiate at President Ford's services...

In the course of homiletic debate, Prayer book readiings, theological tension, and the lively discussion of poltical correctness... I suppose he has made a point....

However -- In presiding over funeral services... Pastors are regularly committed to carefully following the instructions left by the deceased (will) or specifically requested by the widow/family in the conduct of the services.

I think this might be one case where the doctrine/conduct cops need to back off... and rejoice that a Godly man who served our nation well in uniform and inhigh office -- Was paid due tribute today--

IN the full light of the Gospel message....

That's just me.... JMHO...

9 posted on 01/02/2007 7:46:32 PM PST by Wings-n-Wind (The answers remain available; Wisdom is obtained by asking all the right questions!)
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To: sionnsar

Perhaps Universalism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universalism
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Universalism_in_Christianity




1Cor 3:11 For other foundation can no man lay than that is laid, which is Jesus Christ.

Act 4:12 Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.

1John 5:12 He that hath the Son hath life; and he that hath not the Son of God hath not life.



11 posted on 01/02/2007 8:13:13 PM PST by Esther Ruth
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Listening while in the kitchen, I abruptly stopped doing what I was doing because the verse didn't sound right at all to me.

Thanks for posting and verifying what I heard....or rather, didn't hear.

Leni

13 posted on 01/02/2007 8:31:38 PM PST by MinuteGal (The Left takes power only through deception.)
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To: sionnsar

This came straight out of the TEV translation: "Today's Episcopagan Version."


16 posted on 01/02/2007 11:17:43 PM PST by kaehurowing
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Maybe they should be cut some slack this one time.

I heard this also and at the time I thought that possibly they did not want to appear to be proselytizing at a funeral the way we Baptists do. Many think that it is crass to proselytize at a funeral and it would seem even more so since the service was televised.

17 posted on 01/03/2007 6:43:13 AM PST by Between the Lines (Liberalism: the insanity that results from too many people living in close proximity to one another.)
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I was wondering if some blogger or commentator would discuss this. My wife pointed out the fact that the second half of the verse (the "politically incorrect" half) was left out. Also, the Reverend's use of Ford's funeral as a tool to get across his "peacemaking agenda" on gay bishops was inappropriate. Where does Reverend Certain stand on the issue? Is he for homosexual bishops or not? I generally find that those who want to bring about "reconciliation" generally mean "give us what we want now and start ordaining homosexuals." But I am making an assumption; I do not know his positions.


18 posted on 01/03/2007 6:47:28 AM PST by Zack Nguyen
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Verse 6 does not end half way through, and this seems to be another gesture of a church that cannot deal with Holy Scripture on its own terms.

On the other hand, there is no versification in the original languages. Verse 6 happened to end wherever Robert Estienne in his 1551 edition of the Greek New testament put it.
20 posted on 01/03/2007 6:56:24 AM PST by aruanan
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In any case, Rev. Certain read the entire verse today with no omissions, in the service that just ended in Grand Rapids. Perhaps the Cathedral made him nervous?


31 posted on 01/03/2007 1:16:14 PM PST by linda_22003
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I noticed this immediately and thought about the scripture that talks about those who are ashamed of Jesus he will also be ashamed of them. I thought this was horrible and sooooooooo obvious to anyone who reads the BIBLE.


51 posted on 01/03/2007 11:16:04 PM PST by therut
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