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To: jkl1122

***We know from Scripture that Jesus did not sin. The same can not be said for Mary.***

This is untrue, since nowhere in Scripture does it state that Mary sinned.


109 posted on 12/13/2006 12:41:35 PM PST by nanetteclaret (Our Lady's Hat Society)
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To: nanetteclaret

Did I say that the Bible said that Mary sinned? No, I said that we can't know from Scripture that she did not sin.


111 posted on 12/13/2006 12:43:12 PM PST by jkl1122
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To: nanetteclaret; jkl1122
This is untrue, since nowhere in Scripture does it state that Mary sinned.

Is she numbered among the "all" in Romans 3:23? Is she numbered among the "all" in 1 Tim 2:4 or 2 Pet 3:9?

Romans 3:23 states that "all" have fallen short of the Glory of God. Since Christ is God he would be exempt. But Mary is not God. Thus she would have to be considered to have both sinned and fallen short of the glory of God.

When Paul wrote this he was undoubtedly aware of Mary's position, so if he felt that she was exempt, he would not have said "all" without exception, he would have said all have fallen short of the Glory of God and the Glory of Mary.

118 posted on 12/13/2006 1:01:06 PM PST by P-Marlowe (LPFOKETT GAHCOEEP-w/o*)
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To: nanetteclaret
This is untrue, since nowhere in Scripture does it state that Mary sinned

by that same logic then we could say that Cesar Augustus didn't sin and for that matter nowhere in the bible dose it specifically say that yours truly has sin. but the bible says that Chist was the savour of Mary.Luk 1:46 And Mary said, My soul doth magnify the Lord, Luk 1:47 And my spirit hath rejoiced in God my Saviour.

Question what did Jesus save Mary from?
127 posted on 12/13/2006 1:28:32 PM PST by bremenboy (Just Because I Am Born Again Doesn't Mean I was Born Again Yesterday)
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To: nanetteclaret
Catholic Culture

Collect:
Father, You prepared the Virgin Mary to be the worthy mother of your Son. You let her share beforehand in the salvation Christ would bring by His death, and kept her sinless from the first moment of her conception. Help us by her prayers to live in your presence without sin. We ask this through our Lord Jesus Christ, your Son, who lives and reigns with you and the Holy Spirit, one God, for ever and ever. Amen.

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December 08, 2006 Month Year Season

Solemnity of the Immaculate Conception

Old Calendar: The Immaculate Conception of the Blessed Virgin Mary

Today the Church celebrates the Solemnity of the Immaculate Conception, the solemn dogma defined by Blessed Pope Pius IX in 1854. As Our Lady Immaculately Conceived is the patroness of the United States of America, this is a holyday of obligation in the United States.

Through the centuries the Church has become ever more aware that Mary, "full of grace" through God, was redeemed from the moment of her conception. That is what the dogma of the Immaculate Conception confesses, as Pope Pius IX proclaimed on December 8, 1854: "The most Blessed Virgin Mary was, from the first moment of her conception, by a singular grace and privilege of almighty God and by virtue of the merits of Jesus Christ, Saviour of the human race, preserved immune from all stain of original sin." — Catechism of the Catholic Church

Jesse Tree ~ Mary

Immaculate Conception of Mary
"Tota pulchra es! O Mary, thou art all fair, unstained by original sin" (1st Ant. at Vespers; All.). This cry of admiration, which the Church puts on our lips, expresses the feelings of fallen man before the spotless purity of our Lady. From all eternity God had chosen Mary to be the Mother of the Word Incarnate; He therefore decked her in holiness, preserving her from all stain and making her a worthy dwelling for His Son. The Blessed Virgin's perfect redemption which, from the moment of her conception, preserved her from original sin cannot, therefore, be dissociated from our redemption by Christ; and so, the feast of the Immaculate Conception, coming in the course of Advent, heralds the splendours of the Incarnation of the Redeemer.

Pope Pius IX in his bull Ineffabilis Deus of December 8, 1854, declared the Immaculate Conception to be an infallible teaching of the Church as well as "a doctrine revealed by God and therefore to be believed firmly and constantly by all the faithful that the Blessed Virgin Mary in the first instant of her conception was, by a unique privilege and grace of Almighty God in view of the merits of Jesus Christ, preserved exempt from all stain of original sin." The stain of original sin was excluded from her soul, not removed from it. Many confuse the meaning of this dogma, thinking it refers to Mary's conception of the immaculate Jesus. That is the Incarnation, which we celebrate on the Solemnity of the Annunciation on March 25. This dogma of the Immaculate Conception, on the other hand, refers to St. Anne's conception of Our Immaculate Lady in her womb.

Patron: United States.

Symbols: crown and monogram; lily; enclosed garden; crown of stars; glass (symbol of purity) lily often placed in a vase of transparent glass; lily of the valley.

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139 posted on 12/13/2006 1:55:19 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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