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Renegade bishop set to rattle Rome will ordain 3 married men as Priests in New Jersey
NorthJersey.com ^
| 12.06.06
| SACHI FUJIMORI
Posted on 12/06/2006 11:00:22 PM PST by Coleus
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posted on
12/06/2006 11:00:25 PM PST
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Coleus
To: 2ndMostConservativeBrdMember; afraidfortherepublic; Alas; al_c; american colleen; annalex; ...
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posted on
12/06/2006 11:01:40 PM PST
by
Coleus
(Woe unto him that call evil good and good evil"-- Isaiah 5:20-21)
To: Coleus
Set to rattle Rome? I seriesly doubt this episode will cause the Pope any sleepless nights.
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posted on
12/06/2006 11:06:22 PM PST
by
SuziQ
To: Coleus
“The Catholic Church is becoming a complicated diverse community,”Becoming? What a goober Mr. Charme' is! She has been called a UNIVERSAL Church for two thousand years!
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posted on
12/06/2006 11:09:03 PM PST
by
SuziQ
To: Coleus
I understand the Abp. In Moon, he is following the Messiah.
Were he to remain Catholic, he'd have to be obedient to just the Vicar of Christ
To: Coleus
These critters are no more Catholic than the wymynprysts crowd.
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posted on
12/07/2006 4:53:38 AM PST
by
ArrogantBustard
(Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
To: Coleus
I'm an Orthodox Christian and beleive married clergy is useful to the church, however this guy is no renegade he's a defrocked heretic, who has rejected the will of his ruling bishops and embraced schism.
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posted on
12/07/2006 7:33:11 AM PST
by
kawaii
To: kawaii
Kawaii, for once we agree.
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posted on
12/07/2006 7:48:06 AM PST
by
vladimir998
(Ignorance of Scripture is ignorance of Christ. St. Jerome)
To: Coleus
"In 2001, Moon chose a South Korean wife for Milingo, and married the couple in one of his mass wedding ceremonies."
This represents apostasy. Not schism. Not heresy, but apostasy. He has received a "sacrament" from a non-Christian pagan. Although he initially repented of it, he seems to have gone back to it.
I'm not sure that an apostate bishop any longer intends to do what the Church does. I wonder about the validity of the ordinations and consecrations he performs.
sitetest
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posted on
12/07/2006 8:00:02 AM PST
by
sitetest
(If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
To: Coleus; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; ...
We are a new organization. Nothing new about this group. They are no different from the other catholics who disagreed with the Vatican over the centuries and also left. As we are reminded in the Book of Ecclesiastes - "Everything old is new again".
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posted on
12/07/2006 8:26:28 AM PST
by
NYer
(Apart from the cross, there is no other ladder by which we may get to Heaven. St. Rose of Lima)
To: Coleus; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; nickcarraway; ...
We are a new organization. Nothing new about this group. They are no different from the other catholics who disagreed with the Vatican over the centuries and also left. As we are reminded in the Book of Ecclesiastes - "Everything old is new again".
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posted on
12/07/2006 8:26:57 AM PST
by
NYer
(Apart from the cross, there is no other ladder by which we may get to Heaven. St. Rose of Lima)
To: Coleus
A Clifton resident and coordinator for Married Priests Now, Bishop Dairo Ferrabolli, is sanguine about the Vatican’s rejection. “We are Catholic. If the Vatican doesn’t want to recognize us, it’s OK,” he said.
Bzzzzt. Oh, no, that's incorrect. I'm sorry. We have some lovely parting gifts for you, though. Here's a pitchfork and a little red suit.
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posted on
12/07/2006 8:31:24 AM PST
by
Antoninus
(Rudy as nominee = President Hillary. Why else do you think the media love him?)
To: sitetest
I'm not sure that an apostate bishop any longer intends to do what the Church does. I wonder about the validity of the ordinations and consecrations he performs.
Considering the number of followers this apostate has, he seems to be vying for the title heresiarch. It's been a long time since we've gotten to whip that one out...
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posted on
12/07/2006 8:32:55 AM PST
by
Antoninus
(Rudy as nominee = President Hillary. Why else do you think the media love him?)
To: Coleus
"Ex-Bishop," not "Renegade Bishop."
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posted on
12/07/2006 8:51:08 AM PST
by
dangus
(Pope calls Islam violent; Millions of Moslems demonstrate)
To: Antoninus
Here's a pitchfork and a little red suit.Don't forget the sunscreen! Major sunburn in the forecast.
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posted on
12/07/2006 10:06:19 AM PST
by
Carolina
To: Coleus
“We are Catholic. If the Vatican doesn’t want to recognize us, it’s OK,” IOW: We call ourselves Catholics. The Vatican doesn't recognize us as Catholics. But we are Catholics.
Contradictory premises.
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posted on
12/07/2006 11:05:55 AM PST
by
Aquinasfan
(When you find "Sola Scriptura" in the Bible, let me know)
To: Coleus
Monsignor Robert Wister, a professor of church history at Seton Hall University, said Milingo’s support for married clergy “is not the answer to the priest shortage.” Let's see:
* a 70-something Zambian Archbishop vowed to celibacy
* with a long history of being a TOTAL NUT CASE
* marries a 40-something Korean acupuncturist
* chosen for him
* by Sun Myung Moon
* who performs their marriage in a mass cult gathering
and he's NOT the answer?
DUH!
Good thinking, Monsignor!
Milingo is such a total nutcase you couldn't make his life story up,
you can't take him seriously,
and - as the Holy Father has made quite clear - NOTHING he does involving the Sacrament of Holy Orders could possibly be valid.
In fact, it must be awfully difficult to perform the laying on of hands when you're in a straight-jacket.
To: kawaii
This guy "married" after he was consecrated a bishop, which is not allowed in Orthodoxy.
To: nickcarraway
We don't have married bishops for the most part. I was commenting more on his ordaining priests. Eitherway he's a schismatic, and has chosen to separate himself from the church.
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posted on
12/07/2006 12:07:26 PM PST
by
kawaii
To: kawaii
As far as I know, there are now Orthodox married bishops. Married men can become priests, but priests cannot get married.
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