Deo gratias!
To: lrslattery; NYer; Pyro7480
As it was in the beginning, is now, and ever shall be. Amen.
2 posted on
11/18/2006 5:52:23 PM PST by
kstewskis
("Tolerance is what happens when one loses their principles..." Fr. A. Saenz)
To: lrslattery
now waiting for "consubstantial with the Father" as well
Praise Our Lord Jesus Christ!
Thank you for a wise Pope who continues little by little to restore the fullness of the Catholic faith to the liturgy
5 posted on
11/18/2006 6:26:03 PM PST by
Piers-the-Ploughman
(Just say no to circular firing squads.)
To: lrslattery
I wonder when this will get to the American bishops.
6 posted on
11/18/2006 6:32:24 PM PST by
Salvation
(†With God all things are possible.†)
To: lrslattery
7 posted on
11/18/2006 6:36:02 PM PST by
Tax-chick
(My remark was stupid, and I'm a slave of the patriarchy. So?)
To: lrslattery
Now the question remains. Will our Bishops obey?
8 posted on
11/18/2006 7:48:50 PM PST by
lastchance
(Hug your babies.)
To: lrslattery; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; ...
Pinging many of the catholics because not all have chosen to be on this list ;-)
12 posted on
11/19/2006 12:05:44 AM PST by
NYer
(Apart from the cross, there is no other ladder by which we may get to Heaven. St. Rose of Lima)
To: lrslattery
It's sad that they are defying Vatican II.
To: lrslattery; NYer; Pyro7480
"The anaphoras of the various Oriental Rites, whether in Greek, Syriac, Armenian, the Slavic languages, etc., contain the verbal equivalent of the Latin pro multis in their respective languages."
"Πίετε ἐξ αὐτοῦ πάντες, τοῦτό ἐστι τὸ αἷμά μου, τὸ τῆς Καινῆς Διαθήκης, τὸ ὑπὲρ ὑμῶν καὶ πολλῶν ἐκχυνόμενον, εἰς ἄφεσιν ἁμαρτιῶν."
From the 1700+ year old Orthodox Divine Liturgy at the consecration of the chalice, the Greek equivalent of pro multis and it most definitely means " for many".
God for the Pope. He'll get you guys back on track! :)
15 posted on
11/19/2006 4:03:03 AM PST by
Kolokotronis
(Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
To: lrslattery
gee, when are they gonna tackle the apparently "optional" "men" in "for us men and for our salvation..."
To: lrslattery
"in the next one or two years."
Why not now, now, now? Even parishes that don't have e-mail have telephones, or at least mailboxes.
28 posted on
11/19/2006 9:19:44 AM PST by
dsc
To: lrslattery; kiriath_jearim; Gadfly-At-Large; pryncessraych; aroostook war; TheRake; rogator; ...
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If you want on (or off) this Catholic and Pro-Life ping list, let me know!
39 posted on
11/19/2006 5:14:05 PM PST by
narses
(St Thomas says ? lex injusta non obligat.)
To: lrslattery
Excellent news. But I notice that the bishops still have not put the more accurate translations of the liturgy announced earlier into effect. Bishop Trautman still calls the shots.
I imagine this will go into effect eventually, but the bishops, the liturgists, and the presses that print the missalettes will find numerous ways to delay it.
Fr. Neuhaus has some rather sharp comments on the Novus Ordo in the December issue of First Things. He says that some people call the 1969 rite "the Bugnini Mass," and call the "drastic reordering of the liturgical calendar" Bugnini time.
40 posted on
11/19/2006 5:30:46 PM PST by
Cicero
(Marcus Tullius)
To: lrslattery
Back to basics folks. Throw out the corruption.
46 posted on
11/19/2006 7:39:46 PM PST by
Barnacle
(Where's the wall?.... Where's the wall??)
To: lrslattery
e cardinal's letter directs the bishops to prepare for the introduction of a new translation of the phrase in approved liturgical texts "in the next one or two years." Two years? Why not "Tomorrow"?
60 posted on
11/20/2006 6:18:08 AM PST by
ArrogantBustard
(Western Civilisation is aborting, buggering, and contracepting itself out of existence.)
To: lrslattery
The Roman Rite in Latin has always said pro multis and never pro omnibus in the consecration of the chalice.Which is precisely why this wrong is being corrected. It should never have happened in the first place.
To: lrslattery
67 posted on
11/20/2006 10:10:03 AM PST by
Ciexyz
(Satisfied owner of a 2007 Toyota Corolla.)
To: lrslattery
If His blood didn't cover all sin, He is not free in His perfect justice to give eternal life to idiots and babes should they die before the age of accountability.
Thankfully, the Father imputed all sin on the Son and judged it thereby propitiating all sin and allowing Him the freedom to bestow grace by His Soveriegn will.
Perhaps the senior teachers within the RCC have another way of fostering advanced faith by the recent decision which isn't as fully explained.
IMHO, it won't offer much solace to grieving mothers of deceased children.
152 posted on
11/26/2006 6:20:50 AM PST by
Cvengr
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