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1 posted on 08/17/2006 6:31:11 AM PDT by hiho hiho
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To: hiho hiho
"I am finding hope and nourishment in the Unitarian Universalist tradition."

Oi vey.

2 posted on 08/17/2006 6:32:15 AM PDT by Sam's Army (RIP Little Lion 10-16-90 / 08-07-06)
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To: hiho hiho

"Here I am at 78 raising more questions about the Christian faith than ever before."

Probably 50 years too late. If your faith can't stand up to hard questions you should change. My guess is, your "new" faith is much less able to answer your actual faith questions, but I'm sure you'll be kept busy.


3 posted on 08/17/2006 6:41:55 AM PDT by mad puppy ( The Southern border is THE issue)
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To: hiho hiho
Going to The United Methodist Church to worship does not meet my spiritual needs.

Then she needs to go find her a hippie church and stop whining.

Oh, wait, I see she did.
4 posted on 08/17/2006 6:43:52 AM PDT by Xenalyte ("Snakes on a Plane" will win best movie next year.)
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To: hiho hiho

Extremely good riddance.


6 posted on 08/17/2006 6:44:31 AM PDT by old-ager
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To: hiho hiho

A simple truth about religion - if you don't believe that your particular faith is the 'only way', the 'right way', and/or the 'true path' then you don't really believe - do you?

There is a difference between
1. acknowledging that man has freedom of religious choice and that he may believe and worship as he sees fit, and
2. endorsement of all religions as equally valid.

A fundamental truth of religious study is that we can't all be right...


10 posted on 08/17/2006 6:55:19 AM PDT by BlueNgold (Feed the Tree .....)
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To: hiho hiho; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan; Revelation 911; Gamecock; Buggman; Dr. Eckleburg; AppyPappy

As a methodist pastor, it is sad that this woman does not seem to have faith in Christ, but rather was busy translating doctrines and creeds. She says something about maintaining some of her Christian perspective.

I hope it isn't odd for me to say that her liberal reaction and rejection of us is an indication that the classic, historic Christian perspective is slowly winning back our church.


11 posted on 08/17/2006 6:55:54 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain and proud of it! Supporting our troops means praying for them to WIN!)
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To: hiho hiho
Here is the author's list of grievances against the UMC:

- use of sexist language
- endless rehearsal of ancient doctrines
- the dated hymns
- the exclusivity of traditional Christianity
- denial of ordination to self-avowed practicing homosexuals
- no outcry against a preemptive, illegal war

Frankly, I don't see what she's complaining about - I would think the UMC and her would be a perfect fit.

12 posted on 08/17/2006 6:57:33 AM PDT by Alex Murphy (Colossians 2:6)
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LOL...when the UMC is too conservative for you, you know you have lost the faith.


14 posted on 08/17/2006 7:02:26 AM PDT by kittymyrib
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To: hiho hiho

(Yes, you can be a Christian Unitarian.)

aaa, no you can't.


16 posted on 08/17/2006 7:03:52 AM PDT by svcw
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To: hiho hiho
The exclusivity of traditional Christianity, “ours is the only way,” saddens me now. Seldom in recent years did I hear reference to other faiths, maybe a nod now and then to ecumenicity. As I contemplate the world scene, traumatized with religious conflict, it seems there is good reason to be about the business of opening all the doors and windows to the fresh air of learning about, valuing and working with other faiths.

I am not a methodist, and have had some issues with some Methodist teachings, but some of that can be expected between denominations. Thing is, Jesus is the one that stated there is no other way to heaven, thus it is Jesus that said "ours (Christianity) is the only way". yes, there are many (incorrect) spiritual paths, but only one way to heaven.

This woman's argument isn't with the Methodist Church, but with Jesus himself.

17 posted on 08/17/2006 7:03:59 AM PDT by The Bard (http://www.reflectupon.com/)
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The exclusivity of traditional Christianity, “ours is the only way,” saddens me now.

Nice to see Marge helping out that Jesus guy with his dogmatic statements.
(end sarcasm)
18 posted on 08/17/2006 7:06:13 AM PDT by VOA
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One liberal leaves the churh. Only a few thousand more to go. ping


19 posted on 08/17/2006 7:06:38 AM PDT by bmwcyle (Only stupid people would vote for McCain, Warner, Hagle, Snowe, Graham, or any RINO)
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No offence intended to anyone here, but you know you're screwed up when the freaking Methodists are too conservative for you.

When I was in undergraduate school and became president of a national sorority, I was stunned to realize that I was required to ask new pledges if they were of Negro, Oriental, or Jewish extraction. If they were, we could not pledge them. Shortly after graduating, I resigned from the sorority to protest that discrimination.

What stirring bravery -- resigning from the sorority AFTER graduating.

21 posted on 08/17/2006 7:08:14 AM PDT by Sloth ('It Takes A Village' is problematic when you're raising your child in Sodom.)
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To: hiho hiho

By all means, Marge, it can't be true if it doesn't "meet your spiritual needs."

The liberal mind drips with narcissism.


23 posted on 08/17/2006 7:14:02 AM PDT by Taliesan
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The United Methodists are huge sponsors of the Religious Coalition for Abortion Rights - which I think has now morphed into the Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice . . . that sounds so much better than out-and-out infanticide, I guess.

If you REALLY wanna get sick, click on the link, "Prayerfully Pro-Choice: Worship Resources" - there may even be a Prayer of Blessing for Cranium-Crushing Forceps or a Fetus-Removal Vacuum System.

And the George Augustus Stallings schismatic Imani Temple used to be headquartered at the UMC offices in DC.

So much for reciprocal ecumenism with the Roman Catholic Church!

Of course our (RC) nitwits permitted the ordination of UMC pastors in - of all places - the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception back in 1981, on the same weekend that Catholics nationwide were being asked to sign petition sheets in favor of the Hatch Amendment! When the absurdity - not to say hypocrisy of this - was pointed out to the Archbishop of Washington, DC, his secretary, soon-to-be-Bishop of Charlotte John Donoghue sent the standard, condescending, "ecumenical sensitivity" form letter back to anyone who complained.

All of which is to say, it's amazing to find such a denomination not liberal enough for Granny!


25 posted on 08/17/2006 7:47:26 AM PDT by TaxachusettsMan
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APOSTASY ALERT


26 posted on 08/17/2006 7:50:50 AM PDT by LiteKeeper (Beware the secularization of America; the Islamization of Eurabia)
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To: hiho hiho
Going to The United Methodist Church to worship does not meet my spiritual needs.

Unintentional irony alert.

28 posted on 08/17/2006 7:58:02 AM PDT by Romulus (Quomodo sedet sola civitas plena populo.)
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To: hiho hiho

What a bunch of hooeeeeeey.


30 posted on 08/17/2006 8:06:59 AM PDT by tioga
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"The words stick in my throat when I try to sing the dated hymns depicting heaven as up and hell as down, God as Father, and Christian soldiers marching onward. I find it difficult to worship what my mind rejects."
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What a great post! A perfect illustration of how all this drivel and mortal relativism crept into our churches.

Obviously, she doesn't know what it is to be a Christian, since all this stuff is so "dated".


31 posted on 08/17/2006 8:11:31 AM PDT by wmfights (Psalm : 27)
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Some of us at her age loose it and some of us gain it.

Pray for her loss.


34 posted on 08/17/2006 8:23:10 AM PDT by franky (Pray for the souls of the faithful departed.)
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