Brief Reflections on the Trinity, the Canon of Scripture, and the Protestant idea of Sola Scriptura

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[Teófilo]

Blunders of a technical nature and typos all mine. The most updated version is found in the blog.

[Teófilo]

PING!

[irishtenor]

***All I can do is to witness to the soundness of Catholic teaching and to hope that someone, somewhere, would be moved by grace to accept this teaching and be thus empowered to attain eternal life. ***

Are you saying that those who do not accept this Catholic teaching are not saved?

[the invisib1e hand]

glad to be Catholic bump.

[old-ager]

Nice bit of sophistry. Papism is undermined by the Pope's arrogation of Christ's office. Vicar of Christ indeed. Not to mention Mary-worship.

[ConservativeMind]

Well, I can say that any Christian can criticize what anyone does or claims the Bible says that cannot be supported in Scripture.

For instance, one cannot hold that God puts animals on the same level as humans. There is nothing in Scripture, Catholic, or otherwise, that can support that. Likewise, there is nothing that can support the concept of Mary worship, as Mary is barely mentioned in the Bible and there is nothing mentioned that states that praying to the dead and not to God through Christ accomplishes anything.

So yes, one can criticize what others add to supposedly Christian practices and belief.

The same holds for those who believe being an active homosexual in ministry is okay are also wrong. And it remains correct to hold them accountable, too.

[irishtenor]

***Scripture can't stand separate from the Church. ***

Right... sigh.
If, as it says in John 1, that the word became flesh and dwelt among us, and the word IS scripture, then you are saying that Jesus can't stand separate from the church. Holy scripture is not Holy because the church says so, it is because God says so.

[Pyro7480]

If, as it says in John 1, that the word became flesh and dwelt among us, and the word IS scripture, then you are saying that Jesus can't stand separate from the church.

Well, in a way, He can't, since the Church is His spouse.

[Pyro7480]

Papism is undermined by the Pope's arrogation of Christ's office. Vicar of Christ indeed. Not to mention Mary-worship.

Ah, 16th century Kool Aid.

[nmh]

Yeah, the Bible has it all wrong. God is wrong. Look to fallible men with an agenda on how to follow Christ. Saracsm off.

Is it any wonder that people try to help you in pointing out verse after verse after verse, from the dreaded Bible, that shows something completely different to what fallible men would have you believe. Still the Bible is rejected and posts like this pop up to justify unBiblical beliefs and practices.

Of course this silly post isn't Bible bashing ... nah that's a one sided word to only be used when a Catholic is confronted with Biblical truth and contrasted to what has been taught by their church.

Believe whatever you wish!

[Petronski]

The deeply ironic problem with "sola scriptura" is that "sola scriptura" ain't in "scriptura."

[Petronski]

Nice bit of slander.

[ConservativeMind]

Based on Sola Scriptura, Protestants cannot close the canon!

The Protestant Bible is made up of letters written by those who were directly in contact with Jesus or an Apostle.

How many legitimate writings occurred at 150 AD that the Catholic church didn't think were legitimate? How could they say otherwise?

The safest way to go is one that brings in only those letters that existed to the best of our knowledge at that very early time from those who are unquestioned in their authority.

All others are hearsay.

[irishtenor]

And a man can't stand on his own without his spouse? We are the bride of Christ, but aren't with him yet. He stands alone! Actually, he is sitting on his throne, not standing at all.

[Titanites]

Likewise, there is nothing that can support the concept of Mary worship

You seem to be under the erroneous impression that Mary worship is accepted.

[Iscool]

Well, in a way, He can't, since the Church is His spouse.

Not yet it isn't...

[irishtenor]

*****The sign of Mary’s Assumption plays fundamental role in Christians’ journey and mission. "By contemplating Mary in her celestial glory," the Pontiff said in conclusion, "we understand that the earth is not our final homeland, that if we live constantly focused on that which is eternal, we can share one day that same glory. For this reason, despite our many daily challenges, we must not lose our serenity and peace. The luminous sign of the Assumption of our Lady in the heavens glows brighter than the sad shadows cast by sorrow and violence. We are certain that from high above Mary follows our steps with sweet trepidation. She brightens our life in its dark and stormy hours and reassures us with her maternal hand. Conscious of this, we continue confident along our path shaped by our Christian commitment wherever Providence takes us". *****


Where, exactly, is this found in the Bible? Mary's assumption? Her glorification? Mary follows our steps? This is your Pope speaking, not the Bible.

[irishtenor]

See my post below. Yes, Mary is worshipped, by the Pope.

[Clint N. Suhks]

Wish I was Catholic instead of Episcopalian BUMP!

[Pyro7480]

Where, exactly, is this found in the Bible? Mary's assumption? Her glorification? Mary follows our steps? This is your Pope speaking, not the Bible.

Ah, it seems from you post that the office and person of the Pope is the locus of deception in the world for you. Your argumnent is overly simplistic, to say the least. What is taught by the Pope is not created by he himself, but by what was has been held for centuries, millenia even.