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More Weird Liturgy? "Our Lady" Rite Author Inspired By Labyrinth Walk
The Christian Challenge ^ | 7/28/2006 | Lee Penn

Posted on 07/28/2006 6:45:14 PM PDT by sionnsar

For those wondering what inspired the Episcopal Church's newly-elected, female presiding bishop to refer to "Mother Jesus" during the General Convention, the answer might be found on the "Office of Women's Ministries" (OWM) page on the official national church website.

Indeed, this is not the first time that the OWM has gotten into liturgical mischief.

The phrase used by Bishop Katharine Jefferts Schori appears in a "Eucharist Using Female Nouns and Pronouns" on the OWM's section of the Episcopal Church (TEC)-sponsored website. The rite is accompanied by "Morning Prayers to the Lady" - and this does not mean our Lord's mother. Both services offer worship to "Our Lady" and to the "Holy Mother," and end with the salutation "Blessed be" - a common statement of farewell among Wiccans.

The author of the services, Sandra Thomas Fox, wrote them in 2001, five years after she had a feminist epiphany during her first walk in a labyrinth - a spiritual exercise that actually has New Age roots - at the National Cathedral. There, she became sensitized to "the misogyny in the liturgy."

The webpage that leads to the two feminist liturgies has an all-capitalized disclaimer for each: "NOT AN OFFICIAL LITURGY - FOR USE IN DISCUSSION." Nevertheless, the pages from which each of the services can be downloaded invite readers to use them as well in "gathering communities of worship." Therefore, these services can be used anywhere.

The feminist "Eucharist" invokes God thus: "Blessed be the Lady who births, redeems and sanctifies us."

The threefold Kyrie Eleison becomes this: (Celebrant): Loving Lady, have mercy; (People): Mother Jesus, have mercy; (Celebrant) Loving Lady, have mercy" - thereby giving Jesus both a sex change and children.

The prayers of the people - addressed to "Mother" - include the request that "every member of the Church may be your handmaiden" - thereby praying that all men in the church get a sex change.

The prayer of confession is addressed to "Most Merciful Lady."

The Great Thanksgiving begins, "May the Holy Mother be with you," and continues: "It is truly right, Mother, to give you thanks; for you alone are the I AM, living and true, dwelling in light inaccessible from before time and forever," and adds: "Blessed is she who comes in the name of Love."

With the prayer "Mother, you loved the world so much that you sent your only Son to be our Savior. Incarnate by the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary," the consecration prayer claims that Jesus has two mommies - and no Father.

Immediately after the consecration of the bread and the wine, the celebrant says, "Mother, we now celebrate this memorial of your redemption." (A Freudian slip, perhaps?)

Oddly enough, the Lord's Prayer is unchanged - so this is the only spot in the service which addresses God as "Father."

The "Mass" ends when the celebrant tells the congregation, "Let us go forth empowered by the Love of our Lady," and the congregation replies, "Blessed be."

THE FEMINIST "MORNING PRAYER" service is similar in spirit. After the confession of sin (again addressed to the "Most Merciful Lady"), the celebrant says, "Nurturing Mother, have mercy on us; forgive us all our sins. Through your beautiful Son, Jesus Christ, strengthen us in all goodness, and by the power of the Holy Spirit sustain our eternal life."

Before the psalms, the celebrant says, "The mercy of our Lady is everlasting: come let us adore her." After the Psalm readings, the celebrant sings a new age Gloria Non Patri: "Glory to the Mother, and to her Son, and to the Holy Spirit: as it was in the beginning, is now, and will be forever."

In this service, too, the Lord's Prayer was unmolested - but the celebrant precedes it with "May our Holy Lady be with you...Let us pray the words of her beautiful Son, Jesus Christ."

The prayers of the people include "Keep your example of Motherhood ever before us; Let us see in all our children a sacred trust from you" - an invocation that seems out of place here, since the Women's Ministries site lists the pro-abortion Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice among "social justice" groups.

The General Thanksgiving at the end of the service starts, "Most merciful Mother, we your handmaidens give you thanks for your great love for us and for all you have made." The service ends when the celebrant says, "Let us give thanks to our Lady;" the congregation replies, "Blessed be."

AS EARLIER NOTED, this all began with Ms. Fox's first experience with walking the labyrinth at the 1996 Sacred Circles conference at Washington National Cathedral. That day, "during a guided meditation led by Dr. Sarah Fahy, I had met the wise woman who had told me, `Women are beautiful. You are beautiful,'" Fox wrote. "Immediately after I...walked one of the labyrinths set up in the nave. To my surprise, as I entered the path I dissolved into tears. Questions welled up inside of me. Why had no one ever told me I was beautiful? Why did I need to be told that women were beautiful? I sobbed my way into the center, where I sat until I was once again composed. As I began my walk out, the Eucharist was being celebrated at the high altar. I decided I would silently say these comforting, familiar words as I walked...But on this day, to my horror, these words I loved turned to dust and ashes in my mouth. All I could hear was `He, Him, Lord, Son, Father'...I had heard the misogyny in the liturgy, and there was no going back."

Fox continued, "I realized that I did not see my mother, my two daughters, or myself as made in the image of God. When I looked at the liturgy I discovered there are 195 male nouns and pronouns in Rite I and 145 in Rite II. In both cases, there is one reference to a woman - the Virgin Mary in the Creed. If our liturgy is our story, the telling of the life, death and resurrection of Jesus Christ, where are the voices of the women that Jesus loved, respected, and held dear? Where is an understanding of the holiness of being a daughter, wife, or mother? Wondering what it would be like to have a service to the Divine Feminine, I used Rite II, Prayer D [from the 1979 Prayer Book] as a starting point and wrote such a Eucharist in 2001.

"If one feels that reading this service is blasphemous, I can only say that writing it felt even more so. Yet I felt called to continue, for what else would allow us to see the narrowness of our current liturgy?...My hope is that this Eucharist will begin a dialogue about the ways in which language affects the quality of our worship, our feelings towards God, and our sense of being created in God's image."

As earlier indicated, this was not the first foray into the bizarre for TEC's Office of Women's Ministries. In 2004, there was an outcry over two other offerings on OWM's section of the official church website: "A Women's Eucharist: A Celebration of the Divine Feminine" and a "Liturgy for Divorce." The Women's Eucharist made no mention of Christ, nor of his Body and Blood, but gave thanks to "Mother God" for things like menstrual blood and breasts.

It emerged that the Women's Eucharist had been on a Druid website since 1998. What's more, it had been penned by "Glispa," who turned out to be part of a husband/wife Episcopal clergy couple who up until a short time earlier had also been involved with and promoting modern-day Druidism, including nude mating rituals and invocation of the "Horned God." Once exposed, Pennsylvania clergy Glyn Ruppe-Melnyck and her husband, W. William Melnyck, repented of their Druidry; Mr. Melnyk lost his parochial job over the issue but Mrs. Melnyk kept hers.

The two offending services, which were removed from the OWM website in the 2004 controversy, were part of OWM's "Women's Liturgy Project" to collect worship resources written by women for women - an initiative that, given the latest from the OWM, is evidently ongoing.

*Sources included: Sandra Thomas Fox, "Reflection on the Holy Eucharist,"

Women's Ministries, http://www.ecusa.anglican.org/41685_60499_ENG_HTM.htm;

Women's Ministries, "Liturgies Using Feminine Images," http://www.ecusa.anglican.org/41685_60497_ENG_HTM.htm, a page that links to texts for the two liturgies;

Women's Ministries, http://www.ecusa.anglican.org/41685_31001_ENG_HTM.htm, a blurb for the Religious Coalition for Reproductive Choice.


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To: x_plus_one

I think we both safely agree that the term "Mother Jesus" is an apostatic abomination! I meant to point out that Catholics have never fallen in to such error.


21 posted on 07/28/2006 8:09:06 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Pyro7480; wmfights; fortheDeclaration

It's not that either is too simple or too complicated.

the former formulation would be akin to saying, "Put your foot on the break. Stick the key into the ignition, and turn. Shift the car into reverse. Gently ease up on the brake and, if the car isn't moving backward, gently put your foot on the gas.

Dr. Eck's formulation would be akin to saying, "DRIVE!"


22 posted on 07/28/2006 8:12:35 PM PDT by dangus
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To: Pyro7480; wmfights; fortheDeclaration; P-Marlowe; blue-duncan
Your statement is vastly oversimplified.

"Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and thou shalt be saved, and thy house." (Acts 16:31)

"He was in the world, and the world was made by him, and the world knew him not.

He came unto his own, and his own received him not.

But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name:

Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.

And the Word was made flesh, and dwelt among us, (and we beheld his glory, the glory as of the only begotten of the Father,) full of grace and truth." -- John 1:10-14

Simple.

23 posted on 07/28/2006 8:17:25 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: dangus; wmfights
it's a fact that Mary assisted with the redemptive act

Now see, right there you cross over the line. Christ's redemption of His flock is singularly His work alone.

24 posted on 07/28/2006 8:20:35 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: Pyro7480
"The "jury" is out on that one. The dogma of the Assumption teaches that after her last minute on earth, Mary's was assumed, body and soul into heaven, as she was the Ark of the New Covenant."

I am not sure what you mean by the "jury is out" if its dogma isn't that what the official teaching of your church is?
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"If Jesus is King (and He is), then His Mother is queen mother. "Co-Redemptrix" is a Latin term, that means "a woman who assisted with the redemptive act" (of Jesus)."

JESUS preexisted the world he was "begotten not made" I believe a more straight forward and not misleading statement would be "Mother of JESUS". Mary did not create GOD.

By your definition of "Co-Redemptrix" the soldiers who forced JESUS to carry the cross were Co-Redeemers because they assisted in the redemptive act.

I come from the perspective that anything that takes away from our focus on JESUS is suspect. I have no doubt that Mary was truly a good righteous woman just as I think Joseph was a good righteous man. However, I don't believe either should be elevated to a status that is equal to our mutual LORD and SAVIOUR.
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"The only implication is that she is the closest to Jesus."

Why do you think she is closer to JESUS than any other believer. What about John the disciple JESUS loved? What about the first martyr Stephen whose FAITH was so great he died in our Savior's name?
25 posted on 07/28/2006 8:21:42 PM PDT by wmfights (Lead, Follow, or Get Out Of The WAY!)
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To: FJ290

Good point. I think the worship of the female goes back to the Egyptians.

Wrong then. Wrong now.


26 posted on 07/28/2006 8:22:28 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: dangus

I leave the driving to Jesus. 8~)


27 posted on 07/28/2006 8:23:59 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg ("I don't think they want my respect; I think they want my submission." - Flemming Rose)
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To: dangus

"the former formulation would be akin to saying, "Put your foot on the break. Stick the key into the ignition, and turn. Shift the car into reverse. Gently ease up on the brake and, if the car isn't moving backward, gently put your foot on the gas."
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Everything in your analogy points to you being in control every step along the way. Salvation is not achieved by man, but by GOD. Your in the back seat going wherever GOD wants to take you.


28 posted on 07/28/2006 8:29:43 PM PDT by wmfights (Lead, Follow, or Get Out Of The WAY!)
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To: wmfights
JESUS preexisted the world he was "begotten not made" I believe a more straight forward and not misleading statement would be "Mother of JESUS". Mary did not create GOD.

Yes, He pre-existed the world. Yet, once He was conceived by the power of the Holy Spirit in the womb of Mary, He became fully human AND fully divine. "Mother of Jesus" is accurate, but what is Jesus? He is true man, but also true God. The title "Mother of God" comes from a time in Christian history when there was a debate over whether Jesus was two distinct persons in one body, or whether He was one person with two natures. The Council of Ephesus decided upon the latter when it gave Mary the title "Theotokos" (literally "God bearer,") which was translated as "Mother of God"). When a woman bears an unborn child naturally, that woman becomes a mother.

29 posted on 07/28/2006 8:35:12 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg

Wow, you beat me to the same point.

John 3:16 "For GOD so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life."

It's not complicated, believe have faith be saved.

GOD loves you.


30 posted on 07/28/2006 8:36:26 PM PDT by wmfights (Lead, Follow, or Get Out Of The WAY!)
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To: Pyro7480

"The title "Mother of God" comes from a time in Christian history when there was a debate over whether Jesus was two distinct persons in one body, or whether He was one person with two natures."
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Implicit in the term "Mother of GOD" is that Mary was the creator of GOD and as such has special status.


31 posted on 07/28/2006 8:40:04 PM PDT by wmfights (Lead, Follow, or Get Out Of The WAY!)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
Good point. I think the worship of the female goes back to the Egyptians. Wrong then. Wrong now.

Certainly the Egyptians had many gods and goddesses. One of the periods of time that female worship got out of hand is in old Europe with the Wiccans and that has been revived today.

Has anyone here ever tried to evangelize to Wiccans? Whoa! That's an ordeal. I was trying to evangelize to some on another website several years ago and they sent about 50 females after me on that group. I've never seen such filthy language and hatred for Christianity. When they found out I was a man, it got even more heated. I had to shake the dust and get out of there.

32 posted on 07/28/2006 8:40:28 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: Pyro7480

"The title "Mother of God" comes from a time in Christian history when there was a debate over whether Jesus was two distinct persons in one body, or whether He was one person with two natures."
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Implicit in the term "Mother of GOD" is that Mary was the creator of GOD and as such has special status.


33 posted on 07/28/2006 8:41:17 PM PDT by wmfights (Lead, Follow, or Get Out Of The WAY!)
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To: wmfights
Implicit in the term "Mother of GOD" is that Mary was the creator of GOD and as such has special status.

Well... she is blessed among women and she did bear the Son of God, so therefore I think she has pretty special status.

Catholics do not believe that Mary is the creator of God. You believe Jesus is God don't you manifested in the flesh? She was His mother wasn't she? Therefore she is the Mother of God.

34 posted on 07/28/2006 8:43:20 PM PDT by FJ290
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To: wmfights
Implicit in the term "Mother of GOD" is that Mary was the creator of GOD and as such has special status.

Not at all. That would also imply that Mary is HIGHER than God, and obviously she is not. She is a creature, but one immaculate.

35 posted on 07/28/2006 8:45:17 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; Pyro7480; wmfights; fortheDeclaration; P-Marlowe; dangus

Did you people catch this? "Ms. Fox's first experience with walking the labyrinth at the 1996 Sacred Circles". The whole thing came from a loon walking in circles. That reminds me of that movie about the Aboriginal tribe that worshiped a Coke bottle that fell out of a plane flying over the village.


36 posted on 07/28/2006 9:04:35 PM PDT by blue-duncan
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To: dangus
Never has a Catholic prayer asked the Blessed Mother for forgiveness. NEVER! We ask the Blessed Mother to pray for us that we be kept from sin.

Then why is she named by Rome's bishops (Pius XI in 1935 and JP II in 1985) as the Co-Redemptrix? Though she's never been infallibly declared in this rank, the angry reaction from Catholics and Orthodox and Anglicans, not to mention Protestants and others, was not positive. So we see a soft-pedaling of this silly notion which does not even merit the dignity of being called a doctrine. JP II tested the waters and the reaction was not warm, even among Catholics.

No Catholic has EVER said that Mary is divine, god, or all-powerful.

So, is Mary the Queen Of Heaven or not?

As far as Marian prayers, Wikipedia offers:
The earliest known Marian prayer is Deipara, Dei Genetrix. Mother of God, dating from late 2nd century. It was, discovered in Egypt in 1917 and was written in the languages of the Copts and Greeks (Theotokos, Mother of God). This title was authorized at the Council of Ephesus in 431 commemorating the Virgin's role in the incarnation of Jesus as the Word of God, and her place in the History of Salvation.
Looks to me like a late second-century superstition that gained standing as Rome's state religion descended to its typical accommodations to extent pagan godess religions, a familiar strategy from the hierarchy's other doctrinal compromises with false religions for the sake of recruitment and temporal influence.

BTW, my Catholic neighbor mentioned to me on the phone that she got more rain than me a few nights ago by going out and shaking her rosary beads at the storm clouds. I retorted that this was unfair to us humble Baptists and we might retaliate by buying ourselves some groovy "love beads" so we wouldn't be defenseless when Rome's followers try to hog the rain.
37 posted on 07/28/2006 9:53:11 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: sionnsar; Dr. Eckleburg
With the prayer "Mother, you loved the world so much that you sent your only Son to be our Savior. Incarnate by the Holy Spirit, born of the Virgin Mary," the consecration prayer claims that Jesus has two mommies - and no Father.

Even us rednecks had noticed this. Considerable sarcasm was heard after the local priestess (minister) prayed to her goddess (the Mother) down at the local Congregational establishment. The ready comparison to Heather Has Two Mommies received some attention.

Everyone was appalled, including the unchurched.
38 posted on 07/28/2006 9:57:42 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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To: George W. Bush
Looks to me like a late second-century superstition that gained standing as Rome's state religion descended to its typical accommodations to extent pagan godess religions, a familiar strategy from the hierarchy's other doctrinal compromises with false religions for the sake of recruitment and temporal influence.

What next, the Catholic Church hid the truth about Jesus and Mary Magdalen, and Opus Dei sees to it that the truth stays a secret?

39 posted on 07/28/2006 9:58:31 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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To: George W. Bush
So, is Mary the Queen Of Heaven or not?

Queen of Heaven is a title, not something that states that she is a goddess. The Church, both in the East and the West, has taught that she is a creature - a creature that is higher than the angels - but a creature none the less.

40 posted on 07/28/2006 10:00:43 PM PDT by Pyro7480 ("Love is the fusion of two souls in one in order to bring about mutual perfection." -S. Terese Andes)
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