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Defying church, 12 "Catholic" women to be ordained here
The Pittsburgh Post-Gazette ^ | 6-15-06 | Marylynne Pitz

Posted on 06/15/2006 2:51:17 AM PDT by Cavalcabo

On July 31, a dozen well-educated, experienced Roman Catholic women will pass into uncharted spiritual waters on a boat cruising Pittsburgh's rivers.

On that afternoon, three women in vestments will lay their hands on the heads of the 12 women and anoint their hands with oil during an ordination ceremony that will be the first of its kind in the United States.

Among the participants is Joan Clark Houk, 65, of McCandless, who with seven other women are answering a call to be priests; the other four are candidates to be deacons.

It will be the fourth such ceremony in the world since 2002, all unrecognized by the Vatican. The women are part of a growing international movement to push for women's ordination.

The Women's Ordination Conference, based in Fairfax, Va., will announce today its support of the Pittsburgh ceremony, which will be held aboard the Gateway Clipper boat Majestic. Pittsburgh was selected because of its central location.

In a three-page letter dated May 9, Mrs. Houk, a member of St. Alexis in McCandless, advised Bishop Donald Wuerl of her plans. She has received no response. Mrs. Houk also sent a copy of the letter to all 360 priests in the diocese.

"It is a sin for the Church to discriminate against women and to blame God for it," Mrs. Houk wrote.

The Rev. Ronald Lengwin, spokesman for the Diocese of Pittsburgh, said the church "has determined that the ordination of males is a part of the faith handed down by Christ through his apostles and therefore the church is not free to change it. Ordination to the priesthood can only be conferred on a male."

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The mainstream media keep taking these clowns seriously.
1 posted on 06/15/2006 2:51:20 AM PDT by Cavalcabo
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To: Cavalcabo
I'm not Catholic but this makes me sick.

Why would women want to be ordained in the first place? To be irreverent, cause controversy and strife, assert their "Independence"? It's ridiculous. They should be renounced from Rome as perverted harlots. Our family has been Methodist since the late 1700s, but I left because they wouldn't discourage similar nonsense.

The liberals work hard to undermine the Catholic church. More so than any other church, I think.
2 posted on 06/15/2006 3:12:45 AM PDT by Jaysun (In order to avoid being called a flirt, she always yielded easily.)
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To: Cavalcabo; Jaysun
"Presiding at the ceremony will be Patricia Fresen, Gisela Forster and Ida Raming, who live in Germany and are bishops in Roman Catholic Womenpriests, an international group of Catholics who support women's ordination.

These people are about as Catholic as Marx, and about as much "bishops" as my goldfish. But of course the press loves them and always refers to them as "Catholics," and sometimes even treats them as representatives of the Catholic Church.

The awful and completely NON-Catholic pro-abortion group known as "Catholics for a Free Choice," which is actually funded by the Ford Foundation and several other large foundations, is always the first place the press goes for its "Catholic" opinion interviews. By setting thesmelves up as a sort of parallel church, accepted and promoted by the media, these groups hope to simply obscure and confuse the real Catholic Church.

3 posted on 06/15/2006 3:23:30 AM PDT by livius
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To: livius
and are bishops in Roman Catholic Womenpriests, an international group of "Catholics"

I wonder why they think "Womenpriests" sounds less goofy than "Priestesses." Maybe it's just a German-to-English thing.

4 posted on 06/15/2006 4:32:34 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I am not singing to get to the end of the song.)
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To: Cavalcabo
The participants in the July 31 ceremony, Father Lengwin added, are ignoring church teaching. "I would say they have freely chosen to separate themselves from the church," he said.

That says it all right there. End of discussion.

5 posted on 06/15/2006 4:45:59 AM PDT by markomalley (Vivat Iesus!)
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To: Cavalcabo
Protestant church groups ordain women all the time.

This is simply not news.

6 posted on 06/15/2006 4:50:27 AM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: Cavalcabo
"...who with seven other women are answering a call to be priests"

I see this phrase often. WHO called? It's just another way of saying I'm going to do what I want and I know God approves.

7 posted on 06/15/2006 5:13:11 AM PDT by HarleyD ("Then He opened their minds to understand the Scriptures" Luk 24:45)
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To: Tax-chick

I'm partial to the term "Priestettes," myself. Makes them sound exactly as frivolous and unworthy of serious consideration as they are.


8 posted on 06/15/2006 5:30:34 AM PDT by livius
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To: Cavalcabo
"On July 31, a dozen well-educated, experienced Roman Catholic women will pass into uncharted spiritual waters on a boat cruising Pittsburgh's rivers."

Calling all U-boats, calling all U-boats!
9 posted on 06/15/2006 5:32:04 AM PDT by Convert from ECUSA (Mexico: America's Palestine)
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To: HarleyD
I'm going to do what I want and I know God approves.

Astute observation...

10 posted on 06/15/2006 5:37:05 AM PDT by markomalley (Vivat Iesus!)
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To: livius

Good verbiage!


11 posted on 06/15/2006 5:50:41 AM PDT by Tax-chick (I am not singing to get to the end of the song.)
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To: american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; ...

MEET THE ORDINANDS

Why Women Can't be Priests

12 posted on 06/15/2006 6:03:57 AM PDT by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; ...

MEET THE ORDINANDS

Why Women Can't be Priests

13 posted on 06/15/2006 6:04:13 AM PDT by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: american colleen; Lady In Blue; Salvation; narses; SMEDLEYBUTLER; redhead; Notwithstanding; ...

MEET THE ORDINANDS

Why Women Can't be Priests

14 posted on 06/15/2006 6:04:48 AM PDT by NYer (Discover the beauty of the Eastern Catholic Churches - freepmail me for more information.)
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To: NYer
The local Archdiocese here brought a lawsuit against a group that set itself up as a fake "Catholic Church" and was getting large contributions from Hispanics who didn't know any better and thought it was really Catholic.

They got an injunction against the clowns using "Catholic Church" in their name.

Any reason why that couldn't be done with THIS set of clowns?

15 posted on 06/15/2006 6:09:55 AM PDT by AnAmericanMother ((Ministrix of Ye Chase, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment)))
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To: NYer
Please, Pretend Ordinands, either join the Episcopal Church where you'll be welcomed and feted (but then you wouldn't feel special, now would you?)

or

HerChurch, Ebenezer Lutheran in San Francisco. Here's their memorable video. (Make sure you put all beverages down and swallow before you watch. Oh, and you might want to reduce your screen size if you don't want to go blind.)

Oh, and as a bonus, they've already got goddess rosaries.


16 posted on 06/15/2006 6:17:13 AM PDT by Carolina
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To: Cavalcabo
Something here doesn't compute. I am not Catholic, and I should probably stay out of a discussion which I know so little about. But since I'm not that bashful I will say that although I don't know how the RC hierarchy operates regarding the admission of candidates for the priesthood, this "ordination" sounds as phony as a $3 bill.

It would seem to me as a Baptist looking in from the peanut gallery that if the RC Church itself doesn't ordain these women or recognize their ordination they aren't going to be priests, or I guess that would be priestesses, in the Church. I would think that any priestly duties they perform will be bogus and meaningless as far as the Church is concerned, and possibly even in the eyes of the law. IOW, I wouldn't consider a marriage ceremony conducted by one of those "priestesses" as a valid, Christian, church sanctioned marriage, or a baptism performed by one of them as a true rite of the Church. Seems to me it's all just politically correct make believe to give the ladies a feeling that they are doing something meaningful to defy what they think is a repressive church hierarchy.

To me, following the scriptural instructions given to the early Church by Jesus himself speaking through the epistles of the Apostle Paul is not repression of women. It's simply acknowledging that Jesus Christ has total, absolute authority to say what is the proper procedure to follow in ordaining ministers in his church which he bought and washed with his own blood. Unfortunately the mainline protestant churches are much farther down this unscriptural but politically correct road than the RC, or my own Baptist denomination which has so far rejected attempts to make it conform to the liberal left's loony tunes ideas of what church doctrine should be instead of what it's Head says it MUST be if it's authentic.

Baptists and Catholics may seem to be strange bedfellows in many respects, but it may eventually come down to the point where we are the only people who still believe that Christ is in charge of running his church and not the PC loony left.

17 posted on 06/15/2006 6:17:56 AM PDT by epow (The way of the cross leads home.)
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To: muawiyah
Protestant church groups ordain women all the time.

Make that "some protestant church groups ordain women all the time".

Those protestant denominations and non-dominational churches who still believe that the divinely inspired Word of God is the final authority on faith and practice don't ordain anyone who doesn't meet the qualifications laid down at the beginning by the One who is the divine Head of the Church and the sole, final authority on how it is to operate in a hostile world.

18 posted on 06/15/2006 6:27:58 AM PDT by epow (The way of the cross leads home.)
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To: epow
Lots of wiggle-room in that statement of yours.

BTW, not everyone takes every word uttered by St. Paul as the revealed Word of God.

19 posted on 06/15/2006 6:31:01 AM PDT by muawiyah (-)
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To: epow

>>Baptists and Catholics may seem to be strange bedfellows in many respect, but it may eventually come down to the point where we are the only people who still believe that Christ is in charge of running his church and not the PC loony left.<<

You are right, see my tagline. We are on the same team when it comes to the culture wars.

From the head of the Anti-Catholic Troll hunters I would like to award you the "Humanitarian of the Day" Award. It's so nice to see someone who does not consider us an enemy.

God Bless you!


20 posted on 06/15/2006 6:34:34 AM PDT by netmilsmom (To attack one section of Christianity in this day and age, is to waste time.)
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