[Salvation]

[Minnesota]

Could be happening near you too!

[Salvation]

These webmasters are continuing to speak out!

[nickcarraway]

BUMP

[DBeers]

I am surprised that the rotting vine of dissent evidenced here has yet to be rooted out...

What is going on???

[Rodney King]

Pope John Paul II expressed grave concern for the future of the Catholic Church in America,

Then why didn't he clean house? That is what I don't understand.

[A CA Guy]

I have a simple question. Why can't the Pope avoid making Bishops and Cardinals out of people who are not a reflection of the Bible and the Catholic church?

We have a very bad guy in our Cardinal IMO here in Los Angeles and I guess I figure the best way to avoid a bad guy is to never give him any position of power.

When you get strange Cardinals and Bishops like that, is that saying the Pope couldn't find more traditional and better people ANYWHERE else in the world among ALL his priests?

I know the Pope can't investigate each one, but who ever has been reviewing these people has been doing a piss poor job.

[klossg]

Dude! Like I am spirit of tobacco floating up to the great spirit!

Scary. Freaky. Catholic? Youchy!!!

[Bigg Red]

Wow!

For anyone who lives in these parishes, look out for the lightning bolts!

[AlaninSA]

mtegeder@stedwardschurch.org

[lastchance]

Oh where oh where is a holy hand grenade when you need one?

[NYer]

Could be happening near you too!

It is happening here in NYS. There are several dioceses, mine included, that span the gap of normative worship.

TREE OF LIFE
A sculptural fountain and an Offering Table for the Meditation Place.

The Meditation Place is designed to embrace many faiths, traditions and beliefs. The Tree of Life sculpture is a focal point in the design as an important symbol in almost every religion. In creating the sculpture I introduced additional connections. Apropos of a medical institution, the trees trunk transforms into a double helix of DNA. At the base of the helix is a fig leaf and a seed pod, the traditional symbol of Buddha. Along the spiraling strands are streams of life forms - leaves, sticks, flowers, snails, fish, and birds (over a hundred different images) all surging upward. The tree grows from a fountain that spills into a pool cut into a granite cube. The running water produces The Meditation Places ambient sound track.

Design team:
Fr. James Notebaart - liturgical designer;
Alexander Tylevich - sculptor;
Dietrich Spahn - glass designer;
Rafferty, Rafferty, Tollefson Architects (RRT)

[marshmallow]

OK, so the Archbishop has a few loose cannons in his diocese but he sure straightened out that Fr. Altier, didn't he?

Let nobody say that Archbishop Flynn tolerates dissent and runs a loose ship. Altier never knew what hit him. The good Catholics of Minnesota can sleep easier knowing Flynn got that troublemaker out of their midst.

[Aquinasfan]

Didn't Jesus say something about those who are "neither hot nor cold"? Bleah!

[Jaded]

It's no wonder people went so nuts over Kessler. The heretics.

[RKBA Democrat]

OK folks, I have to admit that I'm missing the point here.

The article in question describes in some detail the various ...innovations... within the Minneapolis Archdiocese. And most of us are familiar with the travails of Fr. Altier. This is clearly a questionable Archdiocese from a theological perspective. However, the Archbishop is very much in control of the Archdiocese, and absent his (unlikely) removal and replacement, the situation isn't going to change anytime soon.

Minneapolis is also a big metropolitan area and has no fewer than 5 eastern Catholic churches. 2 Ukranian, 2 Maronite, and one Ruthenian. So there are orthodox Catholic alternatives available to anyone who wants to seek them out. Yet I'd be willing to bet that those same eastern Catholic churches are relatively empty as compared to the average Parish in the Diocese.

Obviously, there are orthodox western Catholics who are unhappy with the situation in the Archdiocese. But they stay. And they complain. And I have to ask: why? To what end?

I can understand the concept of bearing witness. I can also understand a reluctance to change. But at a certain point you'd think that logic would dictate seeking something else.

I guess people just don't think that way.