Well then!
In in honor of St. Pat...
Posted on 03/14/2006 12:47:42 PM PST by tbird5
OME -- The sudden recovery of a young French nun suffering from Parkinson's disease is at the heart of the sainthood case for Pope John Paul II, the Polish priest who heads the inquiry said Monday.
The Vatican needs to confirm a miracle after John Paul's death for the pontiff to be beatified, the first step toward his possible canonization.
Monsignor Slawomir Oder told The Associated Press in an interview that an official inquiry into the nun's inexplicable recovery was beginning this week.
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Then why, as an atheist, are you making a big deal out of the Church Militant seeking canonization of Pope John Paul II?
"Out of curiousity, what would be a convincing "miracle" to you? Water into wine? Loaves and fishes?
And if you were convinced of a miracle, what would that do to your "faith"?
I always find it fascinating that atheists try to beat the Church down. It's as if they always have to prove their atheism. "
I have no doubt that certain things would fall into the category of miracles for me. I have not seen any of them, nor have I seen proof on any. So, I consider it impossible that such a "miracle" could happen.
As for beating the church down, I have no interest in that. People believe in all sorts of religions, and good for them if they can do so. I cannot, but I don't have any reason to try to convince others.
I'm interested in these "miracles," though. Sadly, I'm unable to investigate them myself, and the ones I've read about end up being equivocal.
Benny Hinn does "miracle" healings at every one of his services. It's his stock in trade. It's what brings in the gelt. Investigations have shown that those "miracles" are bogus, psychosomatic, or otherwise not miracles at all.
But, sure. I'll bring a glass of water to anyone you name. I'll supply the water. Then, that person can do anything they like, except add anything to the water or take the glass of water from my hand. If my glass of water becomes wine, by my taste test, then I'll call it a miracle. You just let me know where and when to show up.
The loaves and fishes is just too simply explained to be classed as a miracle.
Do you not believe that when one dies, they go to heaven? Are their souls not "alive in Christ?"
Do you not believe that those in heaven are not capable of praying for you?
Just curious, not looking to pick a fight.
It would help if you catholics would actually open a bible once in a while instead of depending on your apostate leaders to tell you what to believe.
Don't count on staying on this thread too much longer.
well, back in 500ad you were either a Catholic or a pagan since there were no other churches back then ... Luther was about 900 years into the future
"Then why, as an atheist, are you making a big deal out of the Church Militant seeking canonization of Pope John Paul II?"
Because, as I said, I have an interest in sainthood as understood by the Roman Catholic Church. I'm not really making a big deal of it, though.
Question: Where did your Bible come from? Who compiled it? Also, where in the Bible does it say sola scriptura?
May I ask why?
Well then!
In in honor of St. Pat...
"May I ask why?"
Sure. The Roman Catholic Church is the largest denomination of Christianity. It has influenced the history of the West very heavily. It's only natural that anyone with an interest in history would be interested in the RCC.
The concept of sainthood is one of the most interesting aspects of Roman Catholicism to me.
I'm an odd guy. I'm interested in all sorts of odd things.
I rented a cute family movie not too long about a little English boy who finds a large bag full of money, intended to to be destroyed but robbed and thrown from a train for pick-up, but the timing was off.
The lad gave the money away to the poor and unfortunate and he had a keen interest in saints. Won't give you the ending.
You might enjoy it if you like reading up on them and talking about them, as he did.
But I'll be damned if I can remember the name of the film, sorry.
"Question: Where did your Bible come from? Who compiled it? Also, where in the Bible does it say sola scriptura?"
Very good retort! Those who think that Catholics are not familiar with the Bible are generally speaking from ignorance, especially as regards those in holy orders. I've had some of my best discussions about biblical matters with Catholic Priests. That's not to say that I haven't had interesting discussions with Protestants, but most Priests have a very deep understanding of the Bible.
I know the movie you're talking about, and have seen it, but I can't remember the name of it, either. I saw it several years ago.
I'm an odd guy. I'm interested in all sorts of odd things.
It's not odd at all and I am glad you are interested in it.
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