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Posted on 03/07/2006 9:34:16 PM PST by Iam1ru1-2
Cloning may help terrible prophecies come true
Researchers say they would like to clone Christ. But with this good intention they on the contrary may get an antichrist. Famous chemist Alan Adler who studied samples of the shroud of Turin, the legendary burial cloth into which Jesus Christ was wrapped after crucifixion, made a sensational statement not long ago.
The researcher said there was blood on the shroud and it was shed by a man who died a violent death.
The University of Texas Center for Advanced DNA Technologies, USA, analyzed the DNA of the bloodstains. Head of the Center Victor Tryon confirmed that was human genetic material. It was divided into several samples and sent to different laboratories for further analysis.
No results of the research have been published yet but there are certainly some. Dr. Leoncio A. Garza-Valdes, one of the few researchers allowed to touch the shroud of Turin is working on his book that will have a shocking name, The DNA of God.
The very abbreviation DNA seemed to be rather common for majority of people a couple of years ago. But today it is a serious cause for anxiety. Indeed, DNA gives researchers an opportunity to produce clones, a copy of any creature whose DNA is available for experiments. Experiments of this type have been already made public: Dolly the sheep became an absolute cloned copy of a sheep whose genetic material, DNA, was available.
Soon, it became clear that cloning humans was also possible. Professor Richard Seed declared he would solve the human cloning problem by the end of the millennium. He said he was seeking a fitting candidate for cloning. Finally, researchers supposed that blood found on the shroud of Turin might be used as genetic material for cloning.
Last year, in an interview to The Time Dr. Leoncio A. Garza-Valdes summed up the decade-long dispute about the authenticity of the shroud of Turin. The researcher said he had no doubts that the shroud of Turin had been Christ' burial cloth and that it was his blood that stained the cloth.
In 1988, three laboratories from England, Switzerland and the US conducted a radiocarbon analysis and made a conclusion that the fabric of which the shroud was made was produced in the 14th century. In other words, the laboratories stated the shroud was a fake. And it was just recently that the erroneous conclusions were disproved. Russian researchers removed the cause of the doubts.
Russia's Doctor of chemistry Dmitry Kuznetsov conducted several experiments to persuade his colleagues that they were mistaken when determined the cloth dated back to the 14th century. He said the results of the radiocarbon analysis were distorted with excessive carbon that the fabric absorbed during a fire that the shroud had stood. He stated that in fact the shroud was older than traditionally believed and was at least 2,000 years old.
Some of the prophecies of the past sound particularly mysterious today. It was predicted that there would be another coming of Christ. At the same time it is known there was a prediction telling that an antichrist in the appearance of Christ and in his flesh would come too. In other words, this antichrist may be a fake double of Christ. And this may actually happen thanks to cloning. The prophecy says the antichrist will first of all kill two witnesses of his appearance. Researchers who decided to clone Christ are highly likely to fall the first victims of the antichrist. And then, the usurper and impostor under the guise of Christ, "the man of sin" will personify the absolute negation of God's commandments and set nations on to deadly fights.
John the Baptist associated coming of an antichrist with the Number of the Beast: " Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast : for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six." It was for a long period of time that the rebus was a mystery for people. Some even believed a man would come with the Number of the Beast, 666, written on his head.
Today, researchers suppose that the Number of the Beast may be somehow connected with the genetic code indicated in figures. The number 666 may be the sequence of DNA genetic signals or DNA fragments necessary for successful cloning.
It is a proven fact that the image of a human body on the shroud is not a fake. No significant trace of ink, dye or paint has been discovered on the cloth. What is more, it is not clear how the image in the form of a photographic negative appeared at all.
Physics Doctor John Jackson from the US Air Force Academy and the head of the Shroud of Turin Research Project says the fibers of the image were charred to the depth of 15 micron only and just from one side. He adds that hard X-radiation may produce a similar effect. And it is a great mystery what could probably be the source of such strong radiation two thousand of years ago.
There are many things about the shroud that would prove that it was the burial cloth of Christ, such as a Roman coin over the both eyes minted between 29 to 33 AD. The Wounds are consistent with the Gospel account of Christ's ordeal. A) Crown of thorns. B) Bruising of face. C) Shoulder abrasions D) Knee abrasions E) scourage marks F) nail wounds in hands and feet G) wound in side. H ) Legs not broken !
People who doubt that the shroud is authentic suppose that probably some hoaxer used the Gospel account of Christ' sufferings to draw the image on the shroud. And made some mistakes at that. A hole on one of the palms of the image on the shroud allegedly made with a nail evoked much suspicion. It was thought that crucified people had their wrists nailed otherwise palms were not believed to bear the body weight. An experiment conducted on dead bodies revealed that when palms of dead people were nailed exactly at the spot marked on the shroud of Turin the palms could bear the body weight. This is a spot having particular bones protecting the flesh from tearing and the palms from deformation.
Researcher Alan Adler says not log ago researchers discovered traces of exuding liquid blood material right on the shroud. Doctors learnt about the existence of such liquid only in the 20th century. It proves that even a highly-proficient hoaxer had no notion of such liquid and thus could not paint it on the shroud. So, the cloth actually contacted with a human body.
It is important that the liquid analysis confirmed the human who had been wrapped in the cloth died of dehydration and pain shock. Earlier, experts denied the hypothesis that crucified people inevitably died of asphyxia. An experiment conducted involving volunteers proved that the pose of a crucified man caused no problems to breathing and allowed victims stay alive for several days.
The shroud of Turin is a linen sheet into which Christ was wrapped after being taken from the Cross. The ancient linen cloth 14 ft 3 in. long and 3 ft 7 in. wide is kept with special care in a special metal casket in the Cathedral of St. John the Baptist, Turin, Italy. Earlier it was believed that the first record of the shroud dated back to 1354. But a recent research conducted by Ian Wilson confirmed that there were earlier records dating back to 1200. These records mentioned a cloth that by many features resembled the shroud of Turin. At that time, the relic was known as the Holy Cloth of Edessa as it was kept in the Turkish city of Edessa.
I just finished a series of books based on this idea. Pretty entertaining reading up until the last bit. I'll try and find the title and author and post it later.
I found it very interesting that Pravda is even mentioning this in any article they put in their papers. But I thought this would be an interesting topic for discussion anyway, no matter who wrote it, after all cloning is very popular in these "last days".
"So, what do you think about this article."
I say to the author of this article, forget the article! Write the novel before that OTHER guy does, and make much dinero!
First off this very strange. I have never heard of any cloning theory and the antichrist. I think they are reaching. However Its a curious Question. To be honest I have never thought out the whole "how the anti Christ comes into existance thing' out very much. My hunch is no. I think the Immaculate Conecption of the Virgin MAry would rule that possibility out. That combined with the fact that Christ precious blood is holy and in fact is consumned by hundred of millions each week also make me say no.
It was one of their better episodes.
ZOWIEEE! You mean the Russians took an "Outer Limits" episode and made current event article from it? I wish I had seen that episode. I like the Outer Limits. I like the modern Outer Limits even better.
What about the possibility that this "anti-christ" is actually an alien from outer space of super intelligence and fools the world into believing he is Jesus returning to the Earth to set up his mellenial kingdom?
I believe "The Outer Limits" episodes that were produced for Showtime are rerunning on the Sci-Fi Channel.
Well according to standard Christian theology the antiChrist has a connection to the devil. Since the Devil is bound here on earth I am not sure how a apce alien could fit the bill.
Well Satan was not originally from Earth either, and right now he's the "prince and power of the air" and is not bound to the Earth. That's why in Job he and his corrupted angelic host go to Heaven and talk to God when God asks Satan the question: "What do you think about my servant Job?"
Revelation 12:9
"And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him."
I loved the Christ Clone Trilogy. Even though the harvesting "live" DNA (that survived the transfiguration) part was a little, well, science fictionish, I thought it was cool how the author wove real events with the ficticious. Book Two had me throwing it across the floor (as a born-again Christian)with frustration, but Book Three was great! Plus I ordered them straight from the author, and he autographed them for me. I thought that was a nice touch.
INteresting I have to go look at that passage again. I have always had the sense that Ged so of oked the visit to Heaven in that story. However the rebellion of Angels has already happened. The great war in Heaven is a past event. There will be no more rebellion in HEaven. All the rebelling angels were cast down to earth. So that would seem to say that there will not be a rebellious angel that been hanging out at the Restaurant at the End of the Universe waiting to show up to play the role of the anti christ.
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Thanks for the ping!
Famous chemist Alan Adler who studied samples of the shroud of Turin, the legendary burial cloth into which Jesus Christ was wrapped after crucifixion, made a sensational statement not long ago.The researcher said there was blood on the shroud and it was shed by a man who died a violent death.
Let's see... Dr. Alan Adler DIED over five years ago, so he couldn't have made a "sensational statment not long ago."
In 1988, three laboratories from England, Switzerland and the US conducted a radiocarbon analysis and made a conclusion that the fabric of which the shroud was made was produced in the 14th century. In other words, the laboratories stated the shroud was a fake. And it was just recently that the erroneous conclusions were disproved. Russian researchers removed the cause of the doubts.Russia's Doctor of chemistry Dmitry Kuznetsov conducted several experiments to persuade his colleagues that they were mistaken when determined the cloth dated back to the 14th century. He said the results of the radiocarbon analysis were distorted with excessive carbon that the fabric absorbed during a fire that the shroud had stood. He stated that in fact the shroud was older than traditionally believed and was at least 2,000 years old.
Uh, No. While the C-14 tests have been conclusively invalidated, Kuznetsov proved nothing of the kind... to distort the date by 1200 - 1300 years would require the addition of approximately 65% NEW carbon from 16th Century sources (the fire was in 1532) and that much Carbon Soot would be VERY obvious. The real reason the C-14 tests are invalid is because the tested piece included a 16th Century PATCH invisibly rewoven into original Shroud linen cloth... and yes, there was about 65% percent new material in that piece that was tested.
John the Baptist associated coming of an antichrist with the Number of the Beast: " Let him that hath understanding count the number of the beast : for it is the number of a man; and his number is Six hundred threescore and six." It was for a long period of time that the rebus was a mystery for people. Some even believed a man would come with the Number of the Beast, 666, written on his head.
Who?! John the Baptist wrote Revelations???? Sheesh... Good Grief... to quote Charlie Brown...
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