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'Black Pope' to stand down
Times Online ^ | 02.04.06 | Richard Owen

Posted on 02/05/2006 9:45:29 PM PST by Coleus

'Black Pope' to stand down By Richard Owen

The head of the Jesuits, known as the “Black Pope” because of his black robes, is to step down voluntarily for the first time in the order’s 500-year history.

Father Peter-Hans Kolvenbach, a Dutch prelate who has been Jesuit Superior General since 1983, resigned after tensions between the liberal-minded Jesuits and more conservative forces in the Roman Catholic Church. Since the election of Pope Benedict XVI last April a battle has been fought between the Jesuits and the conservative Opus Dei for control of the Vatican’s media operations.

The Vatican said that Father Kolvenbach wanted to “hand the baton to a younger man”, and that Pope Benedict XVI had given his blessing to the move. Father Kolvenbach will stand down in 2008, when he is 80. The Jesuits, the largest Catholic order, are said to have led opposition to the election of Pope Benedict.


TOPICS: Catholic
KEYWORDS: blackpope; jesuits; popebenedict; resignation; vatican

1 posted on 02/05/2006 9:45:31 PM PST by Coleus
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To: Coleus

The Jesuits have gone liberal?


2 posted on 02/05/2006 9:49:05 PM PST by claudiustg (Delenda est Iran!)
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To: claudiustg

Always. My husband described my Jesuit dissertation advisor as looking like a Miami gambler.


3 posted on 02/05/2006 9:57:20 PM PST by ClaireSolt (.)
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To: claudiustg

Is that sarcastic? Jesuits are now the most notoriously liberal group of priests there are.


4 posted on 02/05/2006 11:41:32 PM PST by dangus
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Perhaps Benedict XVI will be tasking Father Joseph Fessio with the monumental task of cleaning up the Society of Jesus.


5 posted on 02/05/2006 11:58:01 PM PST by A.A. Cunningham
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To: Coleus
The more I read about Pope Benedict XVI the more I marvel that the Lord has given us exactly the right person at the right time.
6 posted on 02/06/2006 12:02:37 AM PST by Talking_Mouse (Indeed I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just... Thomas Jefferson)
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To: claudiustg; Coleus
The Jesuits moved to the left beginning in the late 1950s, with the takeover of the theology department at the University of Louvain by a left-wing faction of the faculty. It has been downhill ever since.

Personally, I wouldn't mind seeing the Jebbies abolished again.

7 posted on 02/06/2006 12:07:52 AM PST by Clemenza (I saw the best minds of my generation destroyed by madness, starving hysterical naked...)
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To: Coleus

There are seeds of hope among Jesuits already. Specifically in the New Orleans Province. And of course, as everywhere else in the Church, they are more or less flourishing proportionally to their orthodoxy. Let us pray that one of these courageous Jesuits of the New Faithful takes command and brings the historically most badass order in the Church back in line.


8 posted on 02/06/2006 4:16:07 AM PST by Squire of St. Michael
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To: Squire of St. Michael

I can't imagine what it must be like to be a "good" Jesuit, such as Fr. Fessio or others like him. They have been relentlessly persecuted by their order and it's hard to imagine how they have survived in such an environment. To say nothing of the lavender aspect, since the Jesuits have the highest (or is it second highest, after the Franciscans) AIDS rate among Catholic religious orders.


9 posted on 02/06/2006 4:20:34 AM PST by livius
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To: livius

For all yours information and viewing pleasure, check-out the boys in the New Orleans Province Novitiate. A friend of mine (now a St. Louis seminarian) and I went on a vocations retreat there last December (2004) where I met some of those guys so I can roughly attest to their holiness, heterosexuality, and good-guyness! They had a big entry class this year (almost double the previous!) So please pray for them and their continued success!

http://norprov.org/vocations/index.htm


10 posted on 02/06/2006 4:35:54 AM PST by Squire of St. Michael
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To: claudiustg

Suppression is in the air...there are precedents!

Benedikt, Gott Geschickt!


11 posted on 02/06/2006 6:58:09 AM PST by magisterium
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To: Squire of St. Michael

Now they look like the Jesuits of old! A sight for sore eyes!

Did you decide to go in?


12 posted on 02/06/2006 8:17:25 AM PST by livius
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To: Coleus
Fascinating. So much for the "Black Pope" conspiracy theory!
13 posted on 02/06/2006 8:55:12 AM PST by Alex Murphy (Colossians 4:5)
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To: livius

Nope. While there is hope of reform for the Jesuits, it's a long way off and to put it bluntly I don't have a love for the Society that would allow me to stomach the liberal hoops I would have to jump through. For instance, in the NO novitiate for evening prayer, a different novice gets to lead it each night. While half the time they simply chant or pray from the Divine Office (when led by a more traditionalist novice) there's still plenty of more progressive forms of worship that I can't stomach. It's complicated and I won't go into it too much, but basically there's too much of the old guard left in the Jesuits for me. I know some really solid young SJs who will discretely become the future leadership of the order, but I don't feel called to join them. So no Jesuits for me, most likely I will beginning at the major seminary next fall for the Archdicese of St. Paul, MN. If you want a great diocese where good things are happening, that's where you should look. 15 newly ordained priests last spring! In the US, second only to Chicago and for a diocese probably a quarter the size.


14 posted on 02/06/2006 10:52:02 AM PST by Squire of St. Michael
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To: Squire of St. Michael

Ad Majorem Gloriam Dei!


15 posted on 02/07/2006 8:08:02 PM PST by The Cuban
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To: Alex Murphy

Checked your Supreme Court lately?


16 posted on 02/11/2006 11:37:00 PM PST by Blogger
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To: claudiustg

Where have you been? The joke is that the Jesuits were the largest order in the Catholic Church. Now they are the largest order outside the Catholic Church. But I kid. Sime Jesuits actually believe in God.


17 posted on 02/11/2006 11:50:21 PM PST by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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To: A.A. Cunningham

Do you really think that after he made the man who allowed Fr. Fessio to exiled, the head of the CDF?


18 posted on 02/11/2006 11:51:15 PM PST by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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To: nickcarraway

I'm not a Catholic so I haven't been keeping tabs on them. Two jesuits that I had for philosophy years ago were staunchly conservative. Then of course they were ex-Jesuits. Both were products of Santa Clara University.


19 posted on 02/11/2006 11:54:41 PM PST by claudiustg (Delenda est Iran!)
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To: claudiustg
SCU, really? That's my alma mater. Once upon a time the Jesuits there were conservative. But not when I was there.
20 posted on 02/12/2006 12:03:19 AM PST by nickcarraway (I'm Only Alive, Because a Judge Hasn't Ruled I Should Die...)
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