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Posted on 01/02/2006 7:39:23 PM PST by gregwest
CHESAPEAKE - A 21-year-old Mormon missionary died Monday night after he and his partner were shot while going door-to-door in the Deep Creek area.
The other missionary, age 19, was in serious condition at Sentara Norfolk General Hospital Monday night, Chesapeake police said.
Police did not release the victims’ identities.
According to police the two missionaries were walking in the 2600 block of Elkhart Street off George Washington Highway about 6 p.m. when they were approached by another man. The man shot them both and fled on foot.
One of the victims ran to The Charity House, a nearby nursing home, to seek help.
Police described the suspect as a black male, about 5’10’’ wearing a black hooded sweatshirt and jeans. He was last seen heading toward Janice Lynn Court, which backs up to Elkhart.
The two missionaries had bicycles, but were not riding them at the time.
A group from the Mormon church, known as the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints, waited in the consultation room at the Norfolk General emergency room Monday night. They declined to comment.
According to the church’s official web site there are more than 60,000 Mormon missionaries, mostly young men and women who volunteer to spread the church’s message for one and a half to two years all over the world, at their own expense.
There are apartment buildings at the end of Elkhart Street, and some residents could not leave or return to their homes for a time Monday night.
Police, working in a moderate rain, had the street blocked off a short way off George Washington Highway.
“This is close to home,’’ said resident Bobby Gatling. He has lived on the block for two years. “Nothing like this has ever happened here before.’’
Anyone with information about this incident is asked to call the Crime Line at 1-888-LOCK-U-UP.
Reach Jim Washington at (757) 446-2536 or jim.washington@pilot online.com.
Considering your choice of a thread for your 'exchange of ideas', you might want to head over to the thread about the trapped West Virginia coal miners and castigate them for being stupid because they're miners.
Why all the different versions of the bible? The answer is simple, there is disagreement over which books to be included. (Interesting note,"Up until the 1880’s every Protestant Bible (not just Catholic Bibles) had 80 books, not 66!") The original meaning of the word bible is library, which was a reference to the fact that it was to be a collection of sacred texts. If you were to study the history of the Bible you will find mortal men making decisions as to what to include and what not to include and even where to place them.(Most bible scholars agree that the book of Revelations with its famous warning about not adding to this book was in fact written prior to several of the books that proceed it in placement in the Bible)
Just for grins here are just some of the scriptures that are referred to in the Bible itself that aren't in any of the current versions of the Bible.
The Book of the Wars of Yahweh-Numbers 21:14,
The Book of Jashar-Joshua 10:12-13;2 Samuel 1:19-27,
The Acts of Solomon-1 Kings 11:41,
Prophesy of Ahijah the Shilonite-2 Chronicles 9:29
Paul’s letter to the Laodiceans- Colossians 4:16,
Paul’s previous Corinthian letter- 1 Corinthians 5:9.
This is not meant to question the Bible as the word of G-D, But it does tend to place into doubt the statement that the Bible is the sole source of the word of G-D!
Way to go on your first post!
Just what I was about to say.
Lewis argues, extremely convincingly I'd say, that it essentially is THE sin. All other sins are a direct result of it.
Oh Please!!! A different Christ?
From the Book of Mormon, Chap 7 7-14.
"7 For behold, I say unto you there be many things to come; and behold, there is one thing which is of more importance than they all—for behold, the time• is not far distant that the Redeemer liveth and cometh among his people.
8 Behold, I do not say that he will come among us at the time• of his dwelling in his mortal tabernacle; for behold, the Spirit hath not said unto me that this should be the case. Now as to this thing I do not know; but this much I do know, that the Lord God hath power to do all things which are according to his word.
9 But behold, the Spirit hath said this much unto me, saying: Cry unto this people, saying—Repent• ye, and prepare the way of the Lord, and walk in his paths, which are straight; for behold, the kingdom of heaven is at hand, and the Son of God cometh• upon the face of the earth.
10 And behold, he shall be born• of Mary, at Jerusalem• which is the land• of our forefathers, she being a virgin•, a precious and chosen vessel, who shall be overshadowed and conceive• by the power of the Holy Ghost, and bring forth a son, yea, even the Son of God.
11 And he shall go forth, suffering pains and afflictions• and temptations of every kind; and this that the word might be fulfilled which saith he will take• upon him the pains and the sicknesses of his people.
12 And he will take upon him death, that he may loose• the bands of death which bind his people; and he will take upon him their infirmities, that his bowels may be filled with mercy, according to the flesh, that he may know according to the flesh how to succor• his people according to their infirmities.
13 Now the Spirit knoweth all things; nevertheless the Son of God suffereth according to the flesh that he might take• upon him the sins of his people, that he might blot out their transgressions according to the power of his deliverance; and now behold, this is the testimony which is in me.
14 Now I say unto you that ye must repent, and be born again; for the Spirit saith if ye are not born again ye cannot inherit the kingdom of heaven; therefore come and be baptized unto repentance, that ye may be washed from your sins, that ye may have faith on the Lamb of God, who taketh away the sins of the world, who is mighty to save and to cleanse from all unrighteousness."
Does that sound like a different Christ? That is the exact same Christ that I have read about and came to love in The Bible. As posted earlier it is always wise to go to the source and not to people who have an agenda against Mormonism.
Oops, thats Alma Chap 7, 7-14. Past my bedtime!
You are right it is a great read!
I would have to agree that it is the great sin.
But your religion says Christ came to America. Ours didn't. So that means two differant Christs.
If you read the truth about Joseph Smith, yes it is hard to hold him in any kind of regard. That is the only problem I have with mormonism. Joseph Smith was a sexual deviant, pervert, whatever. It makes my skin crawl when I think of what he did and claimed was sanctioned by God.
One also states that Christ is Satan's half brother, a seperate and distinct being from God the Father. The other says that Christ is God Himself come in human flesh. This is two different Christs also. It's not the same person.
You're right.
" boast that no man ever did such a work as I." - Joseph Smith
"Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith. " - Saul of Tarsus
It's not Christian by any stretch of the imagination. Dave Hunt sees it as a modified Masonry.
It couldn't be a hate crime. After all, the perp was a black.
Carolyn
Prayers for the families.
"You're pushing your luck."
You are threatening people? Just what kind of Christian are you? Astounding how intolerant some people are when it comes to religion.
Are there any further updates on the crime? I don't see any mention of it on other conservative websites.
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