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Gregorian Chant: a Thing of the Future?
Zenit News Agency ^ | December 25, 2005

Posted on 12/26/2005 4:11:59 PM PST by NYer

Interview With President of Pontifical Institute of Sacred Music

VATICAN CITY, DEC. 24, 2005 (ZENIT.org).- Gregorian chant has been unjustly abandoned and its place in the life of the Church should be recovered, says a Vatican aide.

Monsignor Valenti Miserachs Grau made this declaration at a recent encounter organized by the Congregation for Divine Worship and the Sacraments at the Vatican.

Monsignor Miserachs has been president of the Pontifical Institute of Sacred Music since 1995. This Spanish musician, who has composed more than 2,000 pieces, is also the canonical chapel director of the Basilica of St. Mary Major in Rome.

ZENIT interviewed him about the state of Gregorian chant.

Q: On a day in the Vatican dedicated to chant you have asked that Gregorian chant be recovered and the proposal was well applauded. Does this mean that there is a consensus on its recovery?

Monsignor Miserachs: I believe that this means that there is a general opinion that coincides on the necessity of recovering Latin and Gregorian chant, which is the chant proper to the Church. Gregorian chant has been abandoned and left to concert halls and CD's when its proper place was and is the liturgy.

Q: In the 21st century, does it seem logical to you that Church music be not exclusively Gregorian chant?

Monsignor Miserachs: I think that new musical products, in the majority of cases, have not learned or have not been able to root themselves in the tradition of the Church, thus dragging in a general impoverishment.

It is incomprehensible, especially in the Latin countries, that Latin and Gregorian chant has been pushed aside in the last 40 years.

Latin and Gregorian chant form part of tradition -- and they have been amputated. It is like cutting the roots …

Forgetting Gregorian has created the conditions for the proliferation of new musical products that sometimes don't have sufficient technical quality. Those that do have it can be used along with Gregorian, why not?

Q: Why is the capacity of the faithful to learn Latin melodies not appreciated?

Monsignor Miserachs: It was thought that they were incapable, but this was wrong.

Before, people knew how to sing the basic songs in Latin. Today, it seems that efforts are being made to make them unlearn what they knew. It is obvious that we cannot propose they learn the entire repertoire, which contains 5,000 pieces.

In liturgical chant the assembly does not have to be the only protagonist. A certain order must be kept. The people should sing their part and the rest should be done by the choir, the chanter, the psalmist and obviously the celebrant.

To launch Gregorian chant in the assembly again, we could begin remembering the Pater Noster, the Kyrie, the Sanctus and the Agnus Dei.

If they were invited, given the music and then properly trained, the people would be completely capable of following and singing easy Gregorian melodies, even if it were the first time they heard them.

Just as the repertoire of Gregorian chant is learned, so also other songs in living languages can be learned. I obviously am referring to those that are worthy of being beside the Gregorian repertoire.

Q: Is sufficient attention given to the question of sacred music in the Church?

Monsignor Miserachs: No. For some time, we have insisted on this point. Our institute does its job, but it is only an academic institution, not a normative body and it thus has no say in these affairs. A Vatican body is needed that would directly oversee the matters of sacred music.

John Paul II stated that the musical aspect of liturgical celebrations cannot be left to improvisation or to the free will of the people. It should be confided to a concerted direction and the respect for certain norms. Authorized indications are awaited and this concerns the Church of Rome, the Holy See.


TOPICS: Activism; Catholic; Current Events; General Discusssion; History; Ministry/Outreach; Religion & Culture; Worship
KEYWORDS: catholic; chant; christianmusic; gregorian; gregorianchant; liturgy; mass; music
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1 posted on 12/26/2005 4:12:01 PM PST by NYer
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2 posted on 12/26/2005 4:12:55 PM PST by NYer ("Socialism is the religion people get when they lose their religion")
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To: NYer

Let him stick with Mozart, and - since music does not know denominations - Bach. He most surely could do much worse than that.


3 posted on 12/26/2005 4:30:08 PM PST by GSlob
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To: NYer

"To launch Gregorian chant in the assembly again, we could begin remembering the Pater Noster, the Kyrie, the Sanctus and the Agnus Dei."

That would be outstanding.

"If they were invited, given the music and then properly trained, the people would be completely capable of following and singing easy Gregorian melodies, even if it were the first time they heard them."

It is very easy to learn. I had no experience with chant until just about a year ago but one church I go to uses it often. It is very easy to pick it up, even in Latin.


4 posted on 12/26/2005 4:36:47 PM PST by Nihil Obstat
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To: NYer

a Thing of the Future? >>

I hope so.


5 posted on 12/26/2005 4:49:00 PM PST by Coleus (Roe v. Wade and Endangered Species Act both passed in 1973, Murder Babies/save trees, birds, algae)
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To: NYer

I just sent the link to OCP and asked them to consider publishing Gregorian Chant in their next books.

LOL! Think I'll get an answer?


6 posted on 12/26/2005 5:03:26 PM PST by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: NYer

I would totally attend a church that used Gregorian chants. It's better than that "praise music" crap that gets played in "contemporary" churches.


7 posted on 12/26/2005 5:04:19 PM PST by Xenalyte (Tom Cruise is in my closet and he won't come out.)
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To: Xenalyte

Gregorian Rap. A thing of the future?


8 posted on 12/26/2005 5:06:50 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68

Now that I would pay to hear! Especially if Snoop Dogg were involved. I love that guy.


9 posted on 12/26/2005 5:08:01 PM PST by Xenalyte (Tom Cruise is in my closet and he won't come out.)
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To: tet68
I love the Gregorian Chant in services, but please, none of this-


10 posted on 12/26/2005 5:09:31 PM PST by mikrofon (Noooooooo)
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To: Xenalyte

Especially if Snoop Dogg were involved

Canis Inquisitor? Yo, YO, YO!


11 posted on 12/26/2005 5:10:41 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: mikrofon

Stop that RIGHT NOW. There can be NO Celine Dion on any respectable thread.


12 posted on 12/26/2005 5:12:29 PM PST by Xenalyte (Tom Cruise is in my closet and he won't come out.)
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To: tet68

"I like that old time Gregorian Chant ... That kind of music just soothes my plants ..."


13 posted on 12/26/2005 5:13:53 PM PST by Tax-chick (A child is born in Bethlehem, Alleluia!)
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To: mikrofon

Slim Whitman's greatest Gregorian Chants.
Not available in stores?


14 posted on 12/26/2005 5:14:07 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Nihil Obstat
It is very easy to pick it up, even in Latin.

Especially if they did the Latin text phonetically. When I was growing up, in the Navy, the hymnals had a whole section of hymns (?) in phonetic Hebrew, for Jewish military congregations.

15 posted on 12/26/2005 5:15:51 PM PST by Tax-chick (A child is born in Bethlehem, Alleluia!)
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To: Xenalyte

I actually like Gregorian chants, but then I like Buddhist
temple music too.

Maybe because I was a monk in a former life.


16 posted on 12/26/2005 5:16:12 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68
Maybe you'd like this?


17 posted on 12/26/2005 5:20:54 PM PST by mikrofon (We actually *own* this one - it's a hoot)
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To: NYer

I just love Gregorian and Latin chanting! It's hardly ever used in Mass anymore. Only get to listen to it on CD's.


18 posted on 12/26/2005 6:11:45 PM PST by tob2 (Old Fossil and Proud of It!)
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To: mikrofon

ReDD EXx ? My favorite group!


19 posted on 12/26/2005 6:23:20 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Tax-chick; Nihil Obstat
Especially if they did the Latin text phonetically. When I was growing up, in the Navy, the hymnals had a whole section of hymns (?) in phonetic Hebrew, for Jewish military congregations.

Precisely! This is how it is done in the Maronite Church. The entire liturgy is chanted back and forth between the Celebrant and the congregation. Those chants that retain their original Aramaic/Syriac format, are written phonetically. It's quite easy to pick up.

20 posted on 12/27/2005 12:06:53 AM PST by NYer ("Socialism is the religion people get when they lose their religion")
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