Posted on 12/01/2005 11:58:39 AM PST by NYer
Inquisitor needed, ninenot. Your presence required.
LOL! Staying away from heirarchs sounds like very wise counsel!
Where were these Bishops when the new Mass was being formulated?
"LOL! Staying away from heirarchs sounds like very wise counsel!"
She was a very wise old lady and her best friend was the Most Holy Theotokos! I wouldn't be in the least surprised if she was where the advice came from! :)
Absolutely! You don't want to get hit by the backsplash from a well-aimed lightning bolt!
The comment about the paving in Hell has been variously attributed to St. John Chrysostom, St. John of the Cross, St. Athanasius, and St. Jerome. Of course, they would all be right. Except for this guy:
"“I don’t think they will handle ‘Lord, I am not worthy to have you come under my roof’ very well at all.”"
Judging from the size of the brain contained therein, his skull isn't large enough to use for paving - maybe for kitty litter . . .
. . . oh, darn, now I'm going to have to go to confession on Saturday . . .
I don't say it in Latin, because I don't have the latin memorized, but I do say it in English right after the official response, quietly, but say it I do...and think about the faith of the centurion, too...
"The divisions among the bishops revealed that perhaps they do not walk in lockstep as much as conventional wisdom holds."
This fact is precisely the evidence that the Holy Spirit is the One in charge. The other evidence just as miraculous is how the Jews continue to survive the assault of history because it could only mean that such a people are truly the Apple of God's Eye.
I went to a Spanish language mass once, for a funeral where I was helping to do the post-funeral dinner. I don't have much Spanish language background, only one semester after a whole lot of french and a little Latin, but even then, I could tell that the Spanish seemed more accurate on some points where I knew the English was badly worded, and I felt cheated.
"I always say it in Latin (Domine, non sum dignus, etc.) because the lame paraphrase - probably done that way to avoid using the word "soul," which might have implied something other than materiality and horizontality - offends me so much."
I say it in Latin also, for much the same reason.
I do likewise with the Gloria, among others.
"I don't say it in Latin, because I don't have the latin memorized, but I do say it in English right after the official response, quietly, but say it I do...and think about the faith of the centurion, too..."
And I suspect, KAC, that that is the very reason why the Latin, "Domine, non sum dignus ut intres sub tectum meum, sed tantum dic verbo et sanabitur anima mea!" was put in the Mass in the first place. The Liturgy is supposed to be the ultimate lex orandi, lex credendi event. That line of the noble centurion teaches us more than that we are individually unworthy, it also teaches us that even a Roman military man, the representative of a pagan occupying power, could and did become a believer and that Christ helped him. The story of the Samaritan woman is another example of this, but for a non Semitic person, like you and me, what a powerful image this supplicant Roman is. That centurion is us! You see here, in one small snip of the old Liturgy, how much you Latin Rite Christians lost when the Vatican dropped the old Mass!
"Judging from the size of the brain contained therein, his skull isn't large enough to use for paving - maybe for kitty litter . . ."
My great grandmother would be very happy (and a bit surprised) that an "Americaneetha" (American woman) Roman Catholic would say that!
" . . . oh, darn, now I'm going to have to go to confession on Saturday . . ."
Nah, the Theotokos is chuckling; don't worry! :)
Exactly why I repeat the more accurate version to myself.
"Only say the word and my soul shall be healed."
It's a stepping out in faith. Like the Centurion, we are putting our faith on the line. We are saying, Yes, Lord, even after 2000 years, we believe you are here, at this moment,with us in the Eucharist.
Yes Lord, I know you are Lord, the one who has pity for our soul-sickness, our emptiness, our need for YOU.
Only say the word, Lord, and I believe that you will come into my heart, even if I don't see any bells and whistles, any halos or stigmata.
You are the bread of life. Your flesh is real food, and your blood real drink. And you have called me to your banquet, set me down, dressed me in the white linen of a redeemed soul, and now, not because I could ever deserve it, but because you love me, you feed me with that, yourself, which is the only thing that can heal me, reconcile me, make me whole.
I behold you, Lamb of God, broken in the priest's hand. and in my mind I am back at Calvary, where you hang on the cross broken for love of me. I am at the last supper where you break the bread and say the words, "This is my body."
I am here, kneeling in adoration, for you, my Jesus, are my life, my hope, my Lord.
Adore te devote, latens deitas!
Lord I am not worthy, I can never be worthy,
but because you say the word, you call me to you, my soul will be healed.
**“It’s the most important thing we do, to worship God,” he said. “We’re all pastors here.”**
Thank God for Cardinal George!
But those are the direct words of Scripture spoken by the Centurion to Christ. And what did Christ say to him -- I have not seen such faith!!!!
Where is the faith of our bishops??
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