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To: Kolokotronis

I don't say it in Latin, because I don't have the latin memorized, but I do say it in English right after the official response, quietly, but say it I do...and think about the faith of the centurion, too...


27 posted on 12/01/2005 4:15:21 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: Knitting A Conundrum
"Perhaps most jarring, the phrase “Lord, I am not worthy to receive you” would become, “Lord, I am not worthy that you should enter under my roof.”"

The two translations are NOT equivalent. The easy breezy translation throws out the link with Scripture along with the link to Latin. It is easy to forget that the "under my roof" thing comes directly from the Bah-buhl.
33 posted on 12/01/2005 5:23:24 PM PST by sanormal
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To: Knitting A Conundrum

"I don't say it in Latin, because I don't have the latin memorized, but I do say it in English right after the official response, quietly, but say it I do...and think about the faith of the centurion, too..."

And I suspect, KAC, that that is the very reason why the Latin, "Domine, non sum dignus ut intres sub tectum meum, sed tantum dic verbo et sanabitur anima mea!" was put in the Mass in the first place. The Liturgy is supposed to be the ultimate lex orandi, lex credendi event. That line of the noble centurion teaches us more than that we are individually unworthy, it also teaches us that even a Roman military man, the representative of a pagan occupying power, could and did become a believer and that Christ helped him. The story of the Samaritan woman is another example of this, but for a non Semitic person, like you and me, what a powerful image this supplicant Roman is. That centurion is us! You see here, in one small snip of the old Liturgy, how much you Latin Rite Christians lost when the Vatican dropped the old Mass!


34 posted on 12/01/2005 5:25:38 PM PST by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated!)
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