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Catholic Caucus: Sunday Mass Readings, 09-11-05
USCCB.org/New American Bible ^ | 09-11-05 | New American Bible

Posted on 09/10/2005 10:16:36 PM PDT by Salvation

September 11, 2005
Twenty-fourth Week in Ordinary Time

Psalm: Sunday 40

Reading I
Sir 27:30—28:7

Wrath and anger are hateful things,
yet the sinner hugs them tight.
The vengeful will suffer the LORD’s vengeance,
for he remembers their sins in detail.
Forgive your neighbor’s injustice;
then when you pray, your own sins will be forgiven.
Could anyone nourish anger against another
and expect healing from the LORD?
Could anyone refuse mercy to another like himself,
can he seek pardon for his own sins?
If one who is but flesh cherishes wrath,
who will forgive his sins?
Remember your last days, set enmity aside;
remember death and decay, and cease from sin!
Think of the commandments, hate not your neighbor;
remember the Most High’s covenant, and overlook faults.

Responsorial Psalm
Ps 103:1-2, 3-4, 9-10, 11-12

R. The Lord is kind and merciful, slow to anger, and rich in compassion.
Bless the LORD, O my soul;
and all my being, bless his holy name.
Bless the LORD, O my soul,
and forget not all his benefits.
R. The Lord is kind and merciful, slow to anger, and rich in compassion.
He pardons all your iniquities,
heals all your ills.
redeems your life from destruction,
he crowns you with kindness and compassion.
R. The Lord is kind and merciful, slow to anger, and rich in compassion.
He will not always chide,
nor does he keep his wrath forever.
Not according to our sins does he deal with us,
nor does he requite us according to our crimes.
R. The Lord is kind and merciful, slow to anger, and rich in compassion.
For as the heavens are high above the earth,
so surpassing is his kindness toward those who fear him.
As far as the east is from the west,
so far has he put our transgressions from us.
R. The Lord is kind and merciful, slow to anger, and rich in compassion.

Reading II
Rom 14:7-9

Brothers and sisters:
None of us lives for oneself, and no one dies for oneself.
For if we live, we live for the Lord,
and if we die, we die for the Lord;
so then, whether we live or die, we are the Lord’s.
For this is why Christ died and came to life,
that he might be Lord of both the dead and the living.

Gospel
Mt 18:21-35

Peter approached Jesus and asked him,
“Lord, if my brother sins against me,
how often must I forgive?
As many as seven times?”
Jesus answered, “I say to you, not seven times but seventy-seven times.
That is why the kingdom of heaven may be likened to a king
who decided to settle accounts with his servants.
When he began the accounting,
a debtor was brought before him who owed him a huge amount.
Since he had no way of paying it back,
his master ordered him to be sold,
along with his wife, his children, and all his property,
in payment of the debt.
At that, the servant fell down, did him homage, and said,
‘Be patient with me, and I will pay you back in full.’
Moved with compassion the master of that servant
let him go and forgave him the loan.
When that servant had left, he found one of his fellow servants
who owed him a much smaller amount.
He seized one of his fellow servants and started to choke him, demanding,
‘Pay back what you owe.’
Falling to his knees, his fellow servant begged him,
‘Be patient with me, and I will pay you back.’
But he refused.
Instead, he had the fellow servant put in prison
until he paid back the debt.
Now when his fellow servants saw what had happened,
they were deeply disturbed, and went to their master
and reported the whole affair.
His master summoned him and said to him, ‘You wicked servant!
I forgave you your entire debt because you begged me to.
Should you not have had pity on your fellow servant,
as I had pity on you?’
Then in anger his master handed him over to the torturers
until he should pay back the whole debt.
So will my heavenly Father do to you,
unless each of you forgives your brother from your heart.”




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To: annalex; PetroniusMaximus

*** Justification is seen in the epistles as a past tense, completed action when refering to believers... ***

Correction, "Justification is *almost always* seen as...."

There are exceptions.


41 posted on 09/13/2005 11:57:02 AM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: PetroniusMaximus
Justification is indeed often meant as the initial sacrifice of Christ reflected in a Christian life at its beginning. Nevertheless, the technical definition from the Catholic Encyclopedia is:

Justification

(Latin justificatio; Greek dikaiosis.)

A biblio-ecclesiastical term; which denotes the transforming of the sinner from the state of unrighteousness to the state of holiness and sonship of God. Considered as an act (actus justificationis), justification is the work of God alone, presupposing, however, on the part of the adult the process of justification and the cooperation of his free will with God's preventing and helping grace (gratia praeveniens et cooperans). Considered as a state or habit (habitus justificationis), it denotes the continued possession of a quality inherent in the soul, which theologians aptly term sanctifying grace. Since the sixteenth century great differences have existed between Protestants and Catholics regarding the true nature of justification. As the dogmatic side of the controversy has been fully explained in the article on GRACE, we shall here consider it more from an historical point of view.

life begun by supernatural spiritual rebirth, characterized by faith, sustained by grace and evidenced by good works

Problem with that is that in Catholicism the faith is seen as a product of works just as much as a source of works.

Speaking of terminology, I think I'd mention that "works" is understood rather expansively here. For example, reception of the sacraments is works. Liturgy is works. On the other hand, work in the context of legal or economic necessity is not "works" in the soteriological context. This is why these passages from Romans and Galatians, that concentrate on works of Jewish law or works of pagan labor, do not address the soteriological work of charity.

42 posted on 09/13/2005 12:08:27 PM PDT by annalex
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To: annalex
PetroniusMaximus and Annalex,

I'd like to request that this discussion move to another thread, and that the daily mass readings thread not be used as a place to debate.

Petronius Maximus, I pinged you last night in responding to a post on this thread, my bad. I've enjoyed your comments, and am delighted to see you reading the daily mass Readings.

This looks like an interesting discussion, and perhaps one which would make for a lively thread of it's own.

-IQ
43 posted on 09/13/2005 1:05:44 PM PDT by InterestedQuestioner ("Believe in the Lord Jesus, and you will be saved.")
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To: InterestedQuestioner; annalex

***I'd like to request that this discussion move to another thread, and that the daily mass readings thread not be used as a place to debate.***

Sorry about that. I didn't realize it was that sort of thread - devotional stuff should be kept devotional.


44 posted on 09/13/2005 1:16:42 PM PDT by PetroniusMaximus
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To: PetroniusMaximus

I think we've had a very good discussion, which allowed me to more fully explain the Catholic teaching, and allowed Petronius to point out the disagreements. Thank you, Petronius, for being a good sport as always. I did ping you, so don't apologize.

It is best if we don't set a precedent that others may abuse.


45 posted on 09/13/2005 1:26:05 PM PDT by annalex
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