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New Age Invasion - Is This Spirituality Replacing Catholic Faith?
San Diego News Notes ^ | May 2005 | Robert Kumpel

Posted on 05/08/2005 3:56:34 PM PDT by NYer

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To: Lee N. Field

THE "Toronto Blessing" and the Serpent Power of Kundalini...amazing reference! thanks..
There was a disturbing presence in there- Seemed so inviting but something alien in the air. Just hearing Enya in a church was enough for me. I high-tailed it outta there after 5 minutes


21 posted on 05/08/2005 6:23:30 PM PDT by Antioch (Benedict XVI: "I think the essential point is a weakness of faith.")
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To: Salvation
Thanks for the info. Below is Malachi Martin's analysis of the Enneagram. Exerpted from the preface to the new edition of "Hostage to the Devil"

Foreword- Malachi Martin.

...Among the vast array of disposing factors likely to lead to Possession, the Enneagram Method is nowadays far and away the most common and pernicious. Given the general state of religion, it is not surprising that the Method's popularity is enormously enhanced by its having been enthusiastically adopted and propagated by Catholic theologians and teachers from the major religious Orders-Jesuit, Dominican, and Franciscan -and by some of the official organs used by the bishops of the United States and Canada charged with teaching religious doctrine to young and adult Catholics.

Moreover, because the Enneagram Method is currently presented as an authorized teaching of the North American Forum on the Catechumenate -the body that supplies to the parishes and dioceses of the United States and Canada precisely those materials intended to bring communities and individuals to maturity of faith - the Method penetrates the full fabric of religious belief and participation, literally from cradle to grave.

So effective has the Enneagram Method become in strangling genuine Catholic faith, that it is now considered by some as the most lethal threat to date in the campaign being waged to liquidate orthodox Catholic belief among the faithful.

True to its name - enneagram means "nine points," or "marks"- the Enneagram is a nine-pointed mandala-type figure within a circle. The mandala character of the Enneagram is meant to represent the lotus and, as described by Swiss psychologist Carl Jung, is "a symbol depicting the endeavor to reunite the self."

The Enneagram came to the West from a now dead Asianic spiritual master, George Ivanovich Gurdjieff. Gurdjieff claimed in turn that it originated with the Sufi Masters of Islam. It reached the United States via "spiritual teachers" in Chile, Bolivia, and Peru and in the early 1970s was first broadcast here from the Esalen Institute in Big Sur, California, and Loyola University in Chicago. There is now abundant literature on the subject.

According to Enneagram teaching, there are exactly nine types of human personality, each of which is represented by one of the nine points of the Enneagram figure. Each human being is inalterably confined to one, and only one, of those personality types. But within his or her type, each person is infinitely self-perfectible.

Two characteristics of the Enneagram Method comprise moral teachings that are irreconcilable with the basic moral teachings of Catholics in particular and Christians in general. The basic presumption presented to the mind by the Enneagram Method is that each individual is self-perfectible, morally speaking, within that individual's personality type.

This presumption is in reality a late revival of an ancient heresy known as Pelagianism. It is at odds with the basic Christian teaching that we absolutely depend on the action of divine grace for all moral perfection. Of ourselves, we are helpless. Not only are we not infinitely self-perfectible; we will never of ourselves even escape the grip of our sinful nature. Only supernatural grace enables us to do that. And that grace is simply gratuitous on God's part.

The teaching of the Enneagram Method cuts both God and his grace out of the loop. In fact, there is no longer any loop at all. The individual is cut off from effective knowledge of his or her dependence on God and his supernatural grace for ultimate perfection. He or she is confined to an inalterable personality type, which has been laid out by Enneagram Masters.

The second faulty moral characteristic of the Enneagram Method completes the damage caused by the first. Having fatalistically accepted one's own category, the participant is dependent for perfection on the Enneagramatic exercises suitable for one's personality type. In other words, the soul of the Enneagram disciple is opened out and made docile, with the goal of receiving the promised self-knowledge congruent with his or her type. The soul becomes an apt and classic receptor-an aspiring vacuum -ready for the approach of an intending Possessor. In such a setting, the intending Possessor may come as what St. Paul described with dramatic precision as an Angel of Light. But the danger is all the more insidious for that. For in such a situation, the condition commonly called "perfect Possession" may be the result.

22 posted on 05/08/2005 6:35:03 PM PDT by Antioch (Benedict XVI: "I think the essential point is a weakness of faith.")
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To: NYer
Catholic Zen Retreats, Jersey City, NJ, conducted by a Jesuit Priest

23 posted on 05/08/2005 6:39:35 PM PDT by Coleus (God gave us the right to life, property & self-preservation and the right to defend ourselves)
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To: Antioch

THta picture makes me want to cry.


24 posted on 05/08/2005 6:49:40 PM PDT by It's me
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To: Coleus
lots of cool links on your homepage.
The theosophical society goes back further than Blavatsky.
All she did was take idea,s from Plato ,Platonis,Socrates,Pythagoras,Darwin,Swedenborg etc...
The plan is the Gaia hypothesis,New age religion is using the General Systems Theory to unite eastern and western cultures.
This is obviously one of Satan,s tools

Satan loses in the end.
25 posted on 05/08/2005 7:02:30 PM PDT by pro610 (Faith the size of a mustard seed can move mountains.Praise Jesus Christ!)
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To: NYer

Ah, yes, the gnostics shall ever be with us. Think all the way back to Sts. Peter and Paul. They both warned us about these types of fruitloops.


26 posted on 05/08/2005 7:13:00 PM PDT by GipperGal
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To: pro610

Satan loses in the end. >>>

One good thing about the Bible is that we know the ending.


27 posted on 05/08/2005 7:21:55 PM PDT by Coleus (God gave us the right to life, property & self-preservation and the right to defend ourselves)
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To: It's me
THta picture makes me want to cry.

I know.. These pics too. Two beautiful churches here in Toronto, the right Baptist, the left Presbyterian-both slated for deconsecration, demolition and condominium development. It really is the New Age Image Hosted by ImageShack.us

28 posted on 05/08/2005 7:26:45 PM PDT by Antioch (Benedict XVI: "I think the essential point is a weakness of faith.")
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To: NYer
First off, the Enneagram is being used in almost every Catholic spiritual direction and retreat house in America. It's now the main tool for teaching people how to do spiritual direction.

Well that's bullsh*t. I was recently on a Carmelite retreat at a Franciscan retreat house and it was extremely orthodox. Friend of mine went to Gethsemane, same thing.

29 posted on 05/08/2005 7:30:06 PM PDT by WriteOn (in a word, it's the Word.)
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To: NYer
" This all came from the time when people started believing in Darwinism. We didn't need God anymore"

The idea that Darwinism is opposed to Christian faith is the product of private interpretation. New Ageism is opposed to the Catholic faith but I think it's just another form of private interpretation.

30 posted on 05/08/2005 7:31:22 PM PDT by Varda
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To: NYer

There will be a rise in exorcism. There has to be.


31 posted on 05/08/2005 7:39:27 PM PDT by SaltyJoe ("Social Justice" begins with the unborn child.)
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To: murphE

Yikes..


32 posted on 05/08/2005 7:47:07 PM PDT by pro610 (Faith the size of a mustard seed can move mountains.Praise Jesus Christ!)
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To: Lee N. Field

Kunalini=Serpent Power
We all know who the Serpent is!


33 posted on 05/08/2005 7:51:18 PM PDT by pro610 (Faith the size of a mustard seed can move mountains.Praise Jesus Christ!)
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To: pro610
Every week it's the same thing. All the "retreat centers" offer the the same garbage, and I assume it's approved by our bishop, since it is published in the diocesan newspaper, which he ultimately is responsible for.
34 posted on 05/08/2005 7:52:29 PM PDT by murphE (The crown of victory is promised only to those who engage in the struggle. St. Augustine)
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To: NYer

What a goofy article.

Who can verify what some nuns may or may not be doing in San Diego by the Mexican border? All I know is there is no new age anything in Catholic Churches by me in California.


35 posted on 05/08/2005 7:56:17 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
All I know is there is no new age anything in Catholic Churches by me in California.


36 posted on 05/08/2005 8:14:03 PM PDT by Fast Ed97
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To: Fast Ed97

All you showed there is the celebration of the mass along with singing and dancing. That's allowed.


37 posted on 05/08/2005 8:15:31 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: Fast Ed97

PS: There is clapping and we pray and hold hands doing so at times.

Not a big deal.


38 posted on 05/08/2005 8:16:59 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy; Fast Ed97
Not a big deal.

[sigh]

39 posted on 05/08/2005 8:19:52 PM PDT by murphE (The crown of victory is promised only to those who engage in the struggle. St. Augustine)
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To: murphE

They sing, dance, pray.

It's a live church.

If they dance unto God and for the people at the church, they are NOT worshiping a false god, they are having a celebration of their faith.

Can't speak for the San Diego nuns in the article though. I don't know what's happening there at all.


40 posted on 05/08/2005 8:22:51 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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