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New Age Invasion - Is This Spirituality Replacing Catholic Faith?
San Diego News Notes ^ | May 2005 | Robert Kumpel

Posted on 05/08/2005 3:56:34 PM PDT by NYer

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To: A CA Guy
What a goofy article.

Yes, the author is just as nutty as the new agers.

Now, this article contains a sensibly analysis of New Age and what is wrong with it: Vatican Report on New Age.

New Age has a corrosive effect on all the world's traditional religions - that is - religions that have a long history. This includes not only Christianity, but Judaism, Hinduism, Islam, Buddhism, Zoroastrianism, and Native religions. The Lakota have even declared war on New Agers. New Age is like an acid that dissolves religions into nothingness.

61 posted on 05/08/2005 9:23:24 PM PDT by Ethan Clive Osgoode
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To: A CA Guy; okokie
I haven't in any of my New York or California churches seen anything like the stuff in italics in that post you responded to

What I posted was in fact from the diocese of Rockville Centre in New York.

62 posted on 05/08/2005 9:24:17 PM PDT by murphE (The crown of victory is promised only to those who engage in the struggle. St. Augustine)
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To: GipperGal

It was an event, they called it a liturgy of different nations.

There appeared to be no dancing at all during the mass.

The closest I see to dancing was after a mass was over as a procession out of the event as an escort to the Cardinal.

I'm sure they all know not to do anything wrong during the mass.

Pope JJP2 had lots of children's days where they danced and there was mass during that as well. But I think then they also properly separated it also.

I think these dancing events happened like a show when the Cardinal came to watch and maybe after the mass conclusion from what I saw.

I see no dancing during the actual mass though.

We'd have to have been there to know at what time and with what context those pictures were taken.


63 posted on 05/08/2005 9:31:32 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: GipperGal

64 posted on 05/08/2005 9:31:59 PM PDT by murphE (The crown of victory is promised only to those who engage in the struggle. St. Augustine)
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To: murphE

I'll look into that a bit. I've got their site up now.
http://www.drvc.org/

I was in Brooklyn.
I sure hope if that was true that it is being reported to the Vatican.

Do you attend the church and did you report it?
How did you come across that?


65 posted on 05/08/2005 9:35:52 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy
It was an event, they called it a liturgy of different nations.

I beg your pardon, but when I originally saw the pictures on the diocesan website they were identified as "the Arena Mass".

I'm sure they all know not to do anything wrong during the mass.

Are you kidding me?

66 posted on 05/08/2005 9:36:44 PM PDT by murphE (The crown of victory is promised only to those who engage in the struggle. St. Augustine)
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To: murphE

LOL! Thanks. I'm glad to see I'm not the only one here who thinks the Mass shouldn't look like a production of "Chorus Line".


67 posted on 05/08/2005 9:37:02 PM PDT by GipperGal
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To: A CA Guy

I live in the diocese. I get the diocesan newspaper every week. And yes, this nonsense has been reported for years by many many people to no avail.


68 posted on 05/08/2005 9:38:38 PM PDT by murphE (The crown of victory is promised only to those who engage in the struggle. St. Augustine)
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To: murphE
Are you kidding me?

ROTFLMAO!! That's exactly what I was thinking too.

69 posted on 05/08/2005 9:38:42 PM PDT by GipperGal
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To: murphE; A CA Guy
I live in the diocese.

So do I. Anyone who lives here knows that the abuses to the liturgy in this diocese are shameful and sadly widespread.

70 posted on 05/08/2005 9:40:38 PM PDT by GipperGal
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To: murphE

Horrible, was this about events in your church or were these event's elsewhere?

I mean, it's bad enough if they were non-Catholic events being advertised in your paper, but if these are events happening on Catholic church grounds, I'd be pretty upset.

I don't blame you at all, and I would Email every conservative Cardinal in the country and Vatican you can.

The squeaky wheel gets oiled almost always.


71 posted on 05/08/2005 9:43:56 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: GipperGal

WOW, I would report your complaints weekly at least to an ever developing Email list of every conservative Cardinal in America you can get and also all the Vatican.


72 posted on 05/08/2005 9:45:17 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: murphE

Everything was held in that arena, including a mass at one point.
They had dancing at some point there.

I'm thinking there was an event for the Cardinal directly after the mass. The order of the pictures I saw seemed to show the mass and then after dancing.

But as I told the other person, we weren't there and I don't know if the webmaster mixed events, or has any order at all to the pictures.


73 posted on 05/08/2005 9:49:19 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: cyborg
The only reiki I've done is on myself. >>

can that be done? I thought you needed the energy from another person for it to work.
74 posted on 05/08/2005 9:49:23 PM PDT by Coleus (God gave us the right to life, property & self-preservation and the right to defend ourselves)
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To: NYer
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75 posted on 05/08/2005 9:52:25 PM PDT by Coleus (God gave us the right to life, property & self-preservation and the right to defend ourselves)
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To: Fast Ed97
Pic #1, I believe, is an improper vessel. The pitchers look like they are for kool aid drinkers (no disrespect intended toward the sacrament).

Pic #2, Under old canon law, electronic media like tv was not allowed in the church. Maybe they dropped that. I know it has been extensively used at outdoor papal masses.

Pic #3, looks like something you would expect to see in an old pagan temple, and is just plain weird-looking.

There may not be anything wrong with any of that now, but it all looks like more conditioning for mass disobedience. I wouldn't be comfortable at any of those masses. #1 I might not go forward for communion, doubting its validity, and #2 and #3 I would probably walk out, and feel justly exempt by heaven for my mass obligation.

I've been to a mass worse than any of the three pictures.

I thought about writing the Vatican about several of these issues, but figured it would be futile. No way can I see any of that kind of behavior by the women especially condoned in the early church.

I've read a lot of that occult and new age stuff in the past, and it's insidious, beguiling, you can derive an exhiliarating sense of power in some of it, and it is difficult to cleanse yourself from. As least it gave me some discernment. I don't know about catholic men, but I've talked to several catholic women who have gone to psychics and the like. I did, too, at one time (pre-catholic), and confessed it as a sin once I became catholic, realizing finally from some sensible protestants that Christians shouldn't do those things, and hope to heck I didn't forget any of it.

I've meekly confronted at least three priests about some of this sort of thing, and felt intimidated by their power over me (I already tend to be scrupulous, and felt like it was my problem, not theirs), so this is about the only forum in which I can talk to a few people who are as concerned as I am about some of it. None of us can reach common consensus as to just where the lines should be drawn, however.

I do see where clinging to my own cultural conditioning which was pretty western whether catholic or protestant could be considered an arrogant position in light of the multi-cultural nature of modern Christianity, especially catholicism.

It's late, and I hope this makes some sense, as some of it is difficult to express.

76 posted on 05/08/2005 10:04:23 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: murphE

That doesn't look good to be published in a Catholic newspaper. I'm afraid I would be writing to the editor.


77 posted on 05/08/2005 10:08:24 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Aliska
Pic #1, I believe, is an improper vessel. The pitchers look like they are for kool aid drinkers (no disrespect intended toward the sacrament).

Did you happen to notice the large wicker basket? That's supposed to be the ciborium.

78 posted on 05/08/2005 10:08:43 PM PDT by murphE (The crown of victory is promised only to those who engage in the struggle. St. Augustine)
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To: Antioch

Thanks for the additional information.


79 posted on 05/08/2005 10:10:52 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Antioch

**The teaching of the Enneagram Method cuts both God and his grace out of the loop.**

A warning to all.


80 posted on 05/08/2005 10:11:11 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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