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New Age Invasion - Is This Spirituality Replacing Catholic Faith?
San Diego News Notes ^ | May 2005 | Robert Kumpel

Posted on 05/08/2005 3:56:34 PM PDT by NYer

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41 posted on 05/08/2005 8:25:25 PM PDT by murphE (The crown of victory is promised only to those who engage in the struggle. St. Augustine)
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To: murphE
[sigh]

LOL! You're more charitable than I am. I didn't just sigh. Where did these pictures come from? What a pack of freaks? Are they doing this during a Mass? Oh Lord. Forgive us.

42 posted on 05/08/2005 8:25:50 PM PDT by GipperGal
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To: murphE
Have you ever read the report on new age the Vatican published ?Its called
"Jesus Christ the Bearer of the water of life"

Its probably the best most in depth report on New Age.

Its amazing that some USA Catholic Churches can ignore this report.

I hope that the Vatican can try and keep some of the Churches in the USA in line and condemn these practices.
43 posted on 05/08/2005 8:27:17 PM PDT by pro610 (Faith the size of a mustard seed can move mountains.Praise Jesus Christ!)
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To: A CA Guy
Please stop now before he brings in the big guns and exposes your liturgical naivete for all to see (if they haven't already).
44 posted on 05/08/2005 8:27:53 PM PDT by GipperGal
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To: murphE

St. Mary's I think the pic says. Very traditional and old. Great looking church.


45 posted on 05/08/2005 8:28:57 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: murphE
Here is a selection of "events" published in my diocesan newspaper:

Siena Spirituality Center – Programs include evening prayer, tai ji, passage meditation, yoga, AA meditation and Al Anon, Siena Spirituality Center, 615 Montauk Hwy., Water Mill, for details on programs call 631-726-4740.

Silent Meditation – Contemplative prayer community utilizing Zen discipline, offered Tues-days, 10-11:30 a.m. & Wednesdays, 7:30-9 p.m., Tabor Retreat Center, 60 Anchor

Ave., Oceanside, 516-536-3004. Enneagram II – Concludes May 7, presented by Living Waters, registration required, 631-754-3990.

All-day Interfaith Zen Sittings – 9 a.m., St. Ignatius Retreat House, 251 Searingtown Rd., Manhasset, pre-registration required, 516-621-8300 ext. 10,

OH MY....the new Holy FATHER HAS A EMAIL ADDRESS I'd send this information to him-go to the Vatican website for the e address

46 posted on 05/08/2005 8:31:52 PM PDT by okokie (Terri Schivo Martyr for the Gospel of Life)
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To: GipperGal
Please stop now before he brings in the big guns and exposes your liturgical naivete for all to see (if they haven't already).

LOL, that was funny, thanks for your humor.:-)

47 posted on 05/08/2005 8:33:15 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: okokie

Yikes. Haven't seen anything like that.


48 posted on 05/08/2005 8:34:23 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: GipperGal
What a pack of freaks? Are they doing this during a Mass?

That is none other than Cardinal Mahoney and friends at the "arena mass" which took place during the Catholic Education Conference this year in February. The LA Diocese website proudly displayed these photos and published ones like it in the Tidings diocesan newspaper.

49 posted on 05/08/2005 8:34:25 PM PDT by murphE (The crown of victory is promised only to those who engage in the struggle. St. Augustine)
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To: murphE

Apparently it was a mass that was a special event here.

http://www.recongress.org/ccd-rec.htm

From what I read, they guested people who were Catholics from many places and they dances their traditional things from their state. Like kids dancing that were from Hawaii wearing and dancing native garb.

Very nice. Was at an event and is NOT traditional mass though.


50 posted on 05/08/2005 8:40:53 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: GipperGal

Seems not to be what you called freaks at all.

http://www.recongress.org/

WHAT IS CONGRESS?
Nation's Largest -- The Religious Education Congress, sponsored by the Archdiocese of Los Angeles Office of Religious Education, is the nation's largest annual gathering of Roman Catholics!


Over 38,000 in Attendance (See Congress 2005 registration statistics) -- Our last Religious Education Congress, held in February 2005, brought together 38,577 over the four-day weekend! We had 36,331 registered from across the country and as far away as Ireland and Singapore. Youth attendance at Youth Day topped at 12,222!


Variety of Topics -- Over the three days, Congress offers a variety of speakers (210 of them in 2005) presenting sessions from personal growth to music to "hot" topics -- in English, Spanish and Vietnamese.


Representing Many Cultures -- Congress annually offers a number of liturgies of different character. Congress 2005 offered 13 Eucharistic Liturgies including Contemplative, Jazz, Celtic, Hispanic, Samoan, Young Adult and Youth-led.


Free Exhibits (open to Registrants only) -- Congress 2005 showcased 214 companies as exhibitors -- ranging from religious art to music, and from publishing houses to educational institutions, in addition to our own represented Archdiocesan ministries. (See our 2005 Exhibitor Listing.)


Free Entertainment for Registrants -- Admission to Congress includes both free lunchtime and evening concerts -- ranging from contemporary Christian music to spirited bilingual (Spanish/English) to Vietnamese drum and dance!


51 posted on 05/08/2005 8:46:00 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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Sorry, but this lady looks like a freak to me. All that's missing is the clown make-up.

52 posted on 05/08/2005 8:55:10 PM PDT by GipperGal
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That site belongs to Ingrid Shafer of 511 W MINNESOTA AVE, CHICKASHA, OK.

It doesn't say it belongs to Catholic anything. It's an occultists that seems to like to call itself Christian Catholic (which it is NOT).


53 posted on 05/08/2005 8:58:30 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: pro610

nothing "NEW" in new age


54 posted on 05/08/2005 8:58:45 PM PDT by okokie (Terri Schivo Martyr for the Gospel of Life)
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To: A CA Guy

what???


55 posted on 05/08/2005 9:07:57 PM PDT by okokie (Terri Schivo Martyr for the Gospel of Life)
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To: GipperGal

The lady is a YOUNG lady, since this is a "youth" conference. I believe this was a CCD children's thing.

Kids coming from all over the world with many in local outfits representing their different culture and dances of those areas.

Doesn't sound like freaks or evil to me.
Look at the site the pictures came from and don't be so judgmental over nothing.

I'm sure there are misguided attempts at stuff in different churches from ignorance, but this doesn't appear to be such an event at all.


56 posted on 05/08/2005 9:08:24 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: okokie

I'm sure there are some miss-guided areas here in the states where wrong things are happening.

I haven't in any of my New York or California churches seen anything like the stuff in italics in that post you responded to.

That was some scary stuff. Therefore the YIKES!

I had years of private Catholic school on both coasts. Granted Brooklyn had the tougher nuns, but I sure haven't seen or heard too much weird stuff in my churches at all.


57 posted on 05/08/2005 9:14:09 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: A CA Guy

It was posted by murphe-I was repling to his post of what was in his bulletin-


58 posted on 05/08/2005 9:17:29 PM PDT by okokie (Terri Schivo Martyr for the Gospel of Life)
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It sure got my attention also.

If I saw stuff like that coming out of our local churches, I'd see to it proper authorities found out in the area and at the Vatican.


59 posted on 05/08/2005 9:20:05 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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There is not supposed to be "liturgical dancing" at the Mass. Period. That doesn't come from me. That comes from Rome. You got a problem with it, take it up with Big Ben the Sixteenth.

If this was not a Mass, then fine, whatever floats your boat. If it was a Mass, then yes, I have a problem with it, as does the Magisterium. The focus of the Mass is the paschal sacrifice, not this hippie-dippy dancing around and singing kum-bi-yah. The Mass is solemn, sacred, timeless, and sublimely beautiful. A lady in a purple dress twirling her hand like a lasso as if she were in a ho-down, looks just plain dopey. You can't tell me that the God of the Universe intended the sacred Mass to resemble "Hee-Haw".

60 posted on 05/08/2005 9:21:19 PM PDT by GipperGal
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