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A POPE DESCRIBED AS 'FROM THE SUN' WAS BORN DURING ECLIPSE AND LEAVES WITH ONE
Spirit Daily ^ | 04-06-05 | Spirit Daily

Posted on 04/06/2005 9:17:27 PM PDT by Salvation

A POPE DESCRIBED AS 'FROM THE SUN' WAS BORN DURING ECLIPSE AND LEAVES WITH ONE

He was born during an eclipse (May 18, 1920) and there will be an eclipse, a rare type of partial eclipse, Friday (April 8) on the day of his burial.

And so now eyes have turned more intently to an old prophecy attributed to the Irish monk St. Malachy O'Morgair -- who supposedly foresaw the entire succession of popes by using riddle-like nicknames, with the one fitting the 110th -- John Paul II -- being De Labore Solis, which means  "from the labor of the sun."

Indeed, John Paul II  was the Pope of Fatima -- where there was the famous "miracle of the sun" -- and reigned during an explosion of other supernatural claims involving solar miracles. Like the sun he came out of the East (Poland). Like the sun he visited countries all around the globe. There was a glow that emanated from him.

Of the sun, yes, and with a stature that means some kind of change of era is coming. This was a giant of a man. This was "Mary's Pope." It was the Pope of her secret. It was as if he was there to prevent or stave off a (long-overdue) chastisement and now he is gone.

The way he died could not have been more dramatic, the "culture of life" Pope dying two days after Terri Schiavo in a benchmark case on the value of life -- she prematurely put to death, in commotion, in terror, he dying with all the dignity with which the old, infirm, and disabled should die.

There was the Pope who had fought for Terri nearing the same end of the road (with even a feeding tube) but in a way that was natural and calm, in a state of prayer, such that he was able to tell his aides he was "happy" and that they too should be happy and then ending his life with Mass, more prayer, and the word, "Amen."

The very way he died was "prophetic." You can't get a much more pointed ending.

And then there is the Divine Mercy saint, St. Faustina, who quoted Christ as foreseeing a "spark" that would come from Poland and herald His "final coming." The Church is extremely and rightly wary when the Second Coming is claimed, but in this case it comes from a saint who was recently canonized -- by John Paul II.

Could it really be a case of approaching such monumental events? If not the Second Coming, a manifestation? Or is there much more yet to play out?

There is St. Faustina and then there was the prophecy of mystic Maria Esperanza -- who in a book foresaw that before a manifestation of Christ and the onset of major purifying events "an innocent person whom He loves a lot will die, an innocent person. This will shock the world, will move the world."

To a growing number of people, that sounds like Theresa Marie Schindler [funeral display, left, or here].

And so the prophetic pulse beats -- rapidly. Eclipses and comets have long been seen by humans as signposts. It was Halley's hanging over Jerusalem that seemed to foretell of the destruction there in the first century (like the sword of Damocles) and there were two eclipses or at least unusual darkness that occurred near Palestine in AD 29 and AD 33 -- events that, for some Christians, give astronomical proof to the biblical account that the sky darkened at Jesus' death on the cross.

In ancient China was the belief that eclipses occurred when the "gods" dispatched a dragon to eat the sun. The word "eclipse" comes from a Greek word, "ekleipsis," which means to "fail or be abandoned" -- and indeed eclipses are often associated with the downfall of kings and other leaders. "The sun has perished out of heaven and an evil mist hovers over all," was Homer's horrified account of an eclipse in The Odyssey.

The one expected Friday as the Pope is buried will be what is known as a "hybrid eclipse," part of a "ballet" in celestial physics (as the press describes it) between the sun, earth and moon. "Friday's event will last three hours and 24 minutes," reported a news service. "It begins at 18:54 GMT southeast of New Zealand, then races eastwards on a line north of the Galapagos Islands, Costa Rica, Panama, Colombia and finally Venezuela, where there will be a 33-second annular eclipse at sunset at 22:18. People living in New Zealand and to the north and south of this central line, including most of the southern United States, will see a partial eclipse -- the Sun will appear to have had a "bite" taken out of it. It will be visible on Friday along an arc ranging from the southwestern Pacific to South America, at a time it will already be night in Rome."

The next hybrid eclipse will take place on April 20, 2023. Is there something in that year, or around that time? Was not something around then associated with Medjugirje or mystics such as Josyp Terelya of the Ukraine?

But back to St. Malachy. As one encyclopedia notes: St. Malachy gave his manuscript to Innocent II to console him in the midst of his tribulations, and the document remained unknown in the Roman Archives until its discovery in 1590 (Cucherat, "Proph. de la succession des papes," ch. xv). They were first published by Arnold de Wyon, and ever since there has been much discussion as to whether they are genuine predictions of St. Malachy or forgeries.

"The silence of 400 years on the part of so many learned authors who had written about the popes, and the silence of St. Bernard especially, who wrote the "Life of St. Malachy," is a strong argument, say some, against their authenticity, but it is not conclusive if we adopt Cucherat's theory that they were hidden in the Archives during those 400 years," it notes.

Is there really anything to do? Some say that if it is really St. Malachy's prophecy, there could be the intervention of popes between the next,  De Gloria Olivae ("from the glory of the olive"), and then the last one he allegedly mentioned, Petrus Romanus ("Peter the Roman").

They say he may only have been noting the especially significant pontificates, not every single one.

If not -- if the number he named forms a finite set -- there are only two more popes left, since Malachy saw only 112 of them.



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There have many threads about the prophecy of St. Malachy. This references several other prophecies.

Comments are welcome!

1 posted on 04/06/2005 9:17:28 PM PDT by Salvation
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To: nickcarraway; SMEDLEYBUTLER; Siobhan; Lady In Blue; attagirl; goldenstategirl; Starmaker; ...
Catholic Discussion Ping!

Please notify me via FReepmail if you would like to be added to or taken off the Catholic Discussion Ping List.

2 posted on 04/06/2005 9:22:35 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Ohioan from Florida; floriduh voter

Ping!


3 posted on 04/06/2005 9:23:37 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Quix

Ping!


4 posted on 04/06/2005 9:24:11 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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Eclipse on Pope's Funeral

Eclipse on pope's funeral
06/04/2005 07:53  - (SA)  

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Paris - Those who say eclipses herald history-shaping events will find support for their superstition when, on Friday, the sun will be briefly plunged into darkness on the day of Pope John Paul II's funeral.

Astronomers, though, say the eclipse, while of a rare and intriguing type, was calculated long ago and is simply part of a ballet in celestial physics between the sun, earth and moon.

It will be visible on Friday along an arc ranging from the southwestern Pacific to South America, at a time it will already be night in Rome.

The event will be a rare type called a "hybrid eclipse", expert Fred Espenak says on his website sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov.

Along the central part of its path, some sections will have a total eclipse, in which the moon will completely obscure the sun.

On other sections of the track, though, it will be an annular eclipse - the moon will appear to have a brilliant, blazing ring around it.

Curvature of the earth

Total eclipses occur when the moon comes between the earth and the sun, completely obscuring the solar disk for a few minutes and illuminating the landscape in an eerie light. The eclipse follows a West-to-East track that lasts several hours until the alignment ends.

Hybrid eclipses occur because of the curvature of the earth, says Espenak.

Sometimes the moon's shadow touches the earth's surface, while at others it falls just short, thus providing the "ring" effect.

Friday's event will last three hours and 24 minutes, according to Espenak's calculations.

It begins at 18:54 GMT southeast of New Zealand, then races eastwards on a line north of the Galapagos Islands, Costa Rica, Panama, Colombia and finally Venezuela, where there will be a 33-second annular eclipse at sunset at 22:18.

People living in New Zealand and to the north and south of this central line, including most of the southern US, will see a partial eclipse - the sun will appear to have had a "bite" taken out of it.

Astronomical proof

Total eclipses were often seen as the harbingers of great events, from droughts and floods to failed harvests and the downfall of kings.

In ancient China, the belief was that an eclipse was caused when the gods dispatched a dragon to eat the sun. The monster then had to be chased away with dances, incantations, the clashing of cymbals and the unleashing of arrows and fireworks.

Even the word "eclipse" comes from a Greek word, "ekleipsis", which means to fail or be abandoned.

"The sun has perished out of heaven and an evil mist hovers over all," was Homer's horrified account of an eclipse in The Odyssey.

Two eclipses occurred near Palestine in AD29 and AD33 - events that, for some Christians, give astronomical proof to the biblical account that the sky darkened at Jesus' death on the cross.

Total solar eclipses happen about once every 18 months or so, although two partial eclipses occur somewhere on earth each year. The next hybrid eclipse will take place on April 20 2023.



5 posted on 04/06/2005 9:26:49 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

THANKS.

Interesting.


6 posted on 04/06/2005 9:35:22 PM PDT by Quix (HAVING A FORM of GODLINESS but DENYING ITS POWER. 2 TIM 3:5)
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To: Salvation

Very interesting!


7 posted on 04/06/2005 9:37:10 PM PDT by Ohioan from Florida (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.- Edmund Burke)
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To: Salvation

Reading that article gives me the shivers! And it also brings to mind some specials on Prophecy broadcast a decade ago by cable TV (TLC or Discovery Channel), which mentioned the St. Malachi prediction. One special analyzed the steps inside the Great Pyramid and predicted just two more Popes, and then the end times. (I mention this for your general interest, not to frighten anyone. It's not up to us to know the time or the date of the Lord's coming.)


8 posted on 04/06/2005 9:40:35 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: Salvation
Hope all Catholic Freepers know about St, Faustina's vision of hell.....fascinatng.

Today on Hugh Hewitt a man was talking about visions in Akita, Japan about end times.....go to hugh hewitt.com and read about Akita, Japan visions....ver interesting.

9 posted on 04/06/2005 9:42:07 PM PDT by Ann Archy (Abortion: The Human Sacrifice to the god of Convenience.)
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To: Ohioan from Florida

Yes, John Paul II had a special glow about him, an inner sunshine that radiated outward. He was full of love for all humanity.


10 posted on 04/06/2005 9:46:08 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: Salvation
THANKS FOR     THE PING!

11 posted on 04/06/2005 9:47:04 PM PDT by Smartass (Si vis pacem, para bellum - Por el dedo de Dios se escribió)
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To: Ann Archy

thanks for the tip on Hugh Hewitt's site, i'll go check it out.


12 posted on 04/06/2005 9:55:15 PM PDT by Ciexyz (Let us always remember, the Lord is in control.)
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To: Salvation
Preordained by God. Prophesied by St. Malachy. Confirmed by St. Padre Pio. Foretold by Ioannes Paulus PP. I. Fulfulled by Karol Woltyla in the name of Joannes Paulus PP. II. And glorified in holy death by God.

"AMEN."

13 posted on 04/06/2005 11:05:01 PM PDT by Norman Bates (In memoriam: Pope John Paul II †, Theresa Marie Schindler †)
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To: Salvation

The partial solar eclipse of 18 May 1920 was the highest magnitude partial solar eclipse of the 20th century with a magnitude of 0.9734 out of a possible 1.0 (total solar eclipse). There were 78 partial solar eclipses in the century with 18 May 1920 being the largest in magnitude and viewable over Europe. There were only 228 of all types combined during the century. There were approximately 36520 days in the century.

[ http://sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclipse/SEcat/SE1901-2000.html ]


14 posted on 04/06/2005 11:17:42 PM PDT by Norman Bates (In memoriam: Pope John Paul II †, Theresa Marie Schindler †)
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To: Norman Bates

Also some prophecies by Maria Esparanza.

** "an innocent person whom He loves a lot will die, an innocent person. This will shock the world, will move the world."**


15 posted on 04/06/2005 11:22:59 PM PDT by Salvation (†With God all things are possible.†)
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To: Salvation

Further documentation:

[ http://sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclipse/SEsaros/SEsaros129.html ]

[ http://sunearth.gsfc.nasa.gov/eclipse/SEmono/HSE2005/HSE2005.html ]

Read.

Only a fool says in his heart that God does not exist.


16 posted on 04/06/2005 11:42:50 PM PDT by Norman Bates (In memoriam: Pope John Paul II †, Theresa Marie Schindler †)
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To: Salvation

Pardon my ignorance, but who was she?

Fear is in my heart. Fear of the Lord.


17 posted on 04/06/2005 11:43:59 PM PDT by Norman Bates (In memoriam: Pope John Paul II †, Theresa Marie Schindler †)
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To: Salvation

I have not read the article yet.
I have seen some threads going by on the Fr. Malichi stuff but figured if it was worth reading and not to Art Bellish I would get a ping from you first.

THanks.


18 posted on 04/07/2005 12:45:29 AM PDT by oceanperch (LOOKIE LOOKIE WE UPDATED OUR PROFILE PAGE/LINKS!)
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To: Salvation

Actually, this is bogus. If the solar eclipse had happened when the Pope left us it would have happened the day he died, not on his funeral. This is called "stretching" a prophecy to make it true.


19 posted on 04/07/2005 5:56:22 AM PDT by mike182d ("Let fly the white flag of war." - Zapp Brannigan)
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To: Ann Archy

Do you hve links to St. Faustina? I have not been able to find it in the Catholic Encyclopedia


20 posted on 04/07/2005 6:24:18 AM PDT by Alkhin ("Ah-ah," admonished Pippin. "Head, blade, dead." ~ Peregrin Took, The Falcon)
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