Mathematics bombshell: God 'confirmed in Bible'

World Net Daily ^ | December 12, 2004

[The Loan Arranger]

For a lot of people, the Bible and mathematics are dry subjects, but not for Edwin Sherman – he believes he's found how the two fit together.

Sherman, founder of the Isaac Newton Bible Code Research Society and a professional mathematician, is convinced that the Hebrew Bible contains coded messages that are evidence of God's authorship of the Bible. His book, "Bible Code Bombshell: Compelling Scientific Evidence that God Authored the Bible," describes numerous examples of encoded phrases and sentences that are both lengthy and relevant to the text where they were found.

[ovrtaxt]

That's not new. Matter and space have been acting liek that since God set it up that way. Fom our perspective, it's new, but certainly not from His.

Anyway, if context means anything to you, Solomon was talking about the realm of human relationships and the way the world works. He made lots of stupid decisions over his life, and he was pretty bitter and disillusioned when he wrote Ecclesiastes.

[samtheman]

That's not new. Matter and space have been acting liek that since God set it up that way. Fom our perspective, it's new, but certainly not from His.

The newness is in the scientific formulation. Where in any prophesy is it predicted that humanity will stumble on evidence that the presence of matter warps the shape of space and that the shape of space determines the motion of matter?

You can't say "ahah! the relativistic nature of gravity has existed since the moment of creation, therefore it is not new, therefore the Bible is prophecy".

You have to find in the Bible (or Nostradamus or whatever prophet floats your boat) that the writer predicted the later discovery of this very hidden relationship between space and matter.

Therein lies the "new under the sun" that only a true prophet would be able to see.

As for predicting wars and rumors of wars... I'll wager the average teenager in ancient Israel could have done that.

[ovrtaxt]

Whatever. I'll refer you to my earlier post about the context of what Solomon was talking about.

[VOYAGER]

In any event, why would you want concrete proof for the existance of God? Wouldn't that totally invalidate the concept of faith?

Excellent point which validates the work of the Holy Spirit as if He needed any help for by faith are ye saved and that not of yourselves nor of any man or woman assistance or scientific gobbledegook which is only man's doublespeak which elevates himself as the center of his universe and his miniscule existence which excludes God.

[Recovering Hermit]

The Scriptures are encoded by removing all spaces between words and creating long strings of letters.

If you have enough monkeys banging randomly on typewriters...

[papertyger]

I disagree. I forget what the technical Hebrew term is, but generally speaking when G-d takes up valuable bandwidth to state something that seems counter-intuitive the reader is suppose to see that as a sign to "dig deeper here." That's the practical aspect of "in seeing they won't see, and in hearing they won't hear." If you're inclined to see it as a mistake or nonsense, you'll be satisfied with that, go away, and that's all you'll ever see.

That's not to say some people infer things that are totally contrived, but their contrivances don't invalidate a genuine insight. You can claim wind comes from leaves wiggling on trees, and just because that's wrong doesn't mean there isn't a valid explaination.

[samtheman]

Ok. I understand what you're saying about Ecclessiastes.

[sirchtruth]

Is it Ecclesiastes that says something like "there is nothing new under the sun"... when, in fact, there is. The progress of scientific explanations of the universe is, in fact, "new under the sun".

Before you go spouting off like you know something, the bible keeps proving over and over again what science keeps discovering.

Holography, light, particles, waves, or both? Black Holes. Ever heard of Quantum Theory? It's all in scripture. You should research it! Try this:

www.khouse.org

[cgbg]

Our digital readout on our dishwasher is currently stuck on 42.

Honest.

The repairman guy says that the thermostat is stuck and he is getting us a new one.

But if he is wrong then.... :-)

[papertyger]

Is it Ecclesiastes that says something like "there is nothing new under the sun"... when, in fact, there is. The progress of scientific explanations of the universe is, in fact, "new under the sun".

So bats didn't exist "under the sun" before men called them "bats?" I don't recall anthing in the Bible about G-d considering man the center of the universe.

[johnnyb_61820]

I haven't looked into this, so I don't know for sure if it's legit or a fraud, but one thing to be aware of is that Hebrew scriptures contains ONLY CONSONANTS. This may make it easier to find such words.

[wita]

After the exercise of faitb, comes concrete proof. There are many in the bible with concrete proof, but first they were faithful. On the first point, if proven true, maybe God added just a little extra, to see if someone would look hard enough. Then again he does have a sense of humor. On that point, I tend to agree more with the Bovine Excrement explanation.

[samtheman]

Ah.... no.

I'm not going to search an entire website that appears packed-with-content on a whole range of subjects (not least of which: shopping).

If there's something on-subject in that website that you think is relevant to this thread, please post a direct link and an exerpt here.

(I love it when people assign me 4 hours homework in response to a casual comment.... NOT.)

[discipler]

It would be "great stuff" if 42 were accurate. Through my own personal investigation of the Hebrew language, and with my special insight into the secret things of God, I've discovered 43, not 42, hidden messages in the Isaiah 53 text. By careful use of the Discipler Logarithm, I've discovered that Isaiah warned against domesticated cats. To be exact, Isaiah says (in code, of course), "Cats are slinking, sneaking creatures which ought to be banished to the desert....Dogs are man's best friend." So you see, Isaiah gives a lesson for animals loves, but he also confounded the whole thing about the number 42. Oh well, the search keeps on.

All kidding aside, I believe the Bible with all my heart, but I don't put much stock in all this Da Vinci or any other code bombshells.

[greasepaint]

I feel kinda sorry for non-English speakers,
what do they do for an error-free Bible?
English speakers have the KJV.

[sirchtruth]

Alright that's fair.

What subject would you like to delve into and I'll go try to point you directly to that article or audio track.

[ovrtaxt]

Yep. If the KJV was good enough for Jesus, it's good enough for me. </sarcasm>

[TomGuy]

If you run enough formulae you can get a code to say anything from any huge group of letters and words.

If you put enough monkeys in a room with enough typewriters, theoretically, they would eventually type The Bible. For the last decade, however, researchers have had them busy working on the Complete Works of Shakespeare; they have yet to master the first sentence.

[AntiGuv]

I'm unsure what you disagree with. I'm quite certain that if my makeshift verse were suddenly discovered in the bible it would instigate a tremendous amount of digging. Just the significance of the term "evolution" itself would probably fill up a shelf in the library..

[papertyger]

You have to find in the Bible (or Nostradamus or whatever prophet floats your boat) that the writer predicted the later discovery of this very hidden relationship between space and matter.

Why? I suppose you can declare definitively "the glass is half empty," but I don't see why others are obligated to agree with you. I'm inclined to believe those that agree with your conjecture didn't take the Bible seriously in the first place, and those that do take it seriously won't agree with your conjecture, so what's accomplished?