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To: ovrtaxt
That's not new. Matter and space have been acting liek that since God set it up that way. Fom our perspective, it's new, but certainly not from His.
The newness is in the scientific formulation. Where in any prophesy is it predicted that humanity will stumble on evidence that the presence of matter warps the shape of space and that the shape of space determines the motion of matter?

You can't say "ahah! the relativistic nature of gravity has existed since the moment of creation, therefore it is not new, therefore the Bible is prophecy".

You have to find in the Bible (or Nostradamus or whatever prophet floats your boat) that the writer predicted the later discovery of this very hidden relationship between space and matter.

Therein lies the "new under the sun" that only a true prophet would be able to see.

As for predicting wars and rumors of wars... I'll wager the average teenager in ancient Israel could have done that.

42 posted on 12/12/2004 4:56:10 AM PST by samtheman
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To: samtheman

Whatever. I'll refer you to my earlier post about the context of what Solomon was talking about.


43 posted on 12/12/2004 5:02:10 AM PST by ovrtaxt (Political correctness is the handmaiden of terrorism.)
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To: samtheman
Is it Ecclesiastes that says something like "there is nothing new under the sun"... when, in fact, there is. The progress of scientific explanations of the universe is, in fact, "new under the sun".

Before you go spouting off like you know something, the bible keeps proving over and over again what science keeps discovering.

Holography, light, particles, waves, or both? Black Holes. Ever heard of Quantum Theory? It's all in scripture. You should research it! Try this:

www.khouse.org

48 posted on 12/12/2004 5:11:27 AM PST by sirchtruth (Words Mean Things...)
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To: samtheman
You have to find in the Bible (or Nostradamus or whatever prophet floats your boat) that the writer predicted the later discovery of this very hidden relationship between space and matter.

Why? I suppose you can declare definitively "the glass is half empty," but I don't see why others are obligated to agree with you. I'm inclined to believe those that agree with your conjecture didn't take the Bible seriously in the first place, and those that do take it seriously won't agree with your conjecture, so what's accomplished?

60 posted on 12/12/2004 5:26:34 AM PST by papertyger
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