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For those interested in unlocking the bible codes...........
http://home.earthlink.net/~diverteach/biblecodes.zip ^ | 12/05/2004 | diverteach

Posted on 12/05/2004 7:36:20 PM PST by diverteach

http://home.earthlink.net/~diverteach/biblecodes.zip


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To: B Knotts

TRUE!

AND

IT'S VERY POSSIBLE--HAPPENS EVERY SUNDAY IN VIRTUALLY EVERY CONGREGATION

to be led astray by the preacher preaching his own ideas however much askew from God's precise truth.


21 posted on 12/06/2004 7:17:52 AM PST by Quix (5having a form of godliness but denying its power. I TIM 3:5)
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To: reaganaut

If you

were a seeker led into faith largely by a valid, Scriptural, God honoring Code

and ended up with an eternal Relationship with The Father, Son and Spirit thereby,

I suspect, in eternity, you'd call it worthwhile, indeed.

There are Jewish scholars for whom this is now true.

If I recall accurately, one was even an atheist.

Are you going to tell God face to face that God was an idiot for using the Code to draw such individuals to Himself?

I wouldn't recommend it.


22 posted on 12/06/2004 7:19:55 AM PST by Quix (5having a form of godliness but denying its power. I TIM 3:5)
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To: Quix

***Not sure how comfortable it will be to be standing on the side opposite God.***

Are you saying that faith isn't what is saving me? It's a code?


23 posted on 12/06/2004 8:22:08 AM PST by Gamecock (Threads started by Gamecock on FR do not necessarily represent the views of the GRPL)
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To: Quix

At one time people refused to believe the world wasn't flat, and the Church itself believed the sun revolved around the earth.

Why won't people even entertain the notion that there may be more than meets the eye.

Unless the Bible code refutes God Himself what harm is there?

I hope people realise though that only the first 5 books of the OT, and only those that have been scrupulously handed down, may even be considered for use with the Bible code.

Those are the only books physically given to man by God, and Jewish scribes have meticulously preserved their integrity.


24 posted on 12/06/2004 8:51:26 AM PST by Arguss (Take the narrow road)
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To: Arguss

Actually, contrary to a lot of popular belief and even the belief of some scholars,

at least one or more studies have demonstrated that God managed to protect the integrity of all the Old Testament and the New Testament.

It seems incredible but the study I read was convincing enough for me.

Certainly Genesis is very unique from any statistical measure someone wants to take on it. Absolutely incredible in terms of letter frequencies and many other things. It's much, much, much, much more . . . unique in terms of the . . . complexion, the mixture and particular sort of mixture of the letter frequencies and patterns--that without trying to discern any codes at all.

It's just an incredibly unique piece of text symbols--certainly for Hebrew but actually for any text.

That ONE fact is rather awesome to anyone who studies it.


25 posted on 12/06/2004 9:14:38 AM PST by Quix (5having a form of godliness but denying its power. I TIM 3:5)
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To: Gamecock

Not talking about your salvation at all.

Only your extreme embarrassment at some future point should you avoid tunng in to that which God has provided for you to be blessed by but which you have

. . . steadfastly . . .

refused to be blessed by.


26 posted on 12/06/2004 9:16:09 AM PST by Quix (5having a form of godliness but denying its power. I TIM 3:5)
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To: Quix
***steadfastly refused to be blessed by.***


Wasn't this little heresy of yours addressed in Colossions?
27 posted on 12/06/2004 9:23:56 AM PST by Gamecock (Threads started by Gamecock on FR do not necessarily represent the views of the GRPL)
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To: Quix
If you were a seeker led into faith largely by a valid, Scriptural, God honoring Code and ended up with an eternal Relationship with The Father, Son and Spirit thereby, I suspect, in eternity, you'd call it worthwhile, indeed. There are Jewish scholars for whom this is now true. If I recall accurately, one was even an atheist. Are you going to tell God face to face that God was an idiot for using the Code to draw such individuals to Himself? I wouldn't recommend it.

First, the "bible code" is about politics NOT salvation. Second, these so-called Jewish scholars are considered 'fringe' by most well known and well respected Bible scholars. Third, my point is that God doesn't use a "code". God's truths are plain in scripture, there is not need for the code. The idea that God would hide some things in Scripture for only a few elect with computers is nearing heresy.

28 posted on 12/06/2004 11:29:00 AM PST by reaganaut (Red state girl in a Blue state world (Socialist Republic of California))
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To: diverteach

It would be great if you could send it to me. My email is sugarpiesandy@hotmail.com. thanks!


29 posted on 12/06/2004 11:35:39 AM PST by Right in Wisconsin
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To: diverteach

Interesting.


30 posted on 12/06/2004 11:38:04 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Quix; B Knotts; Gamecock
to be led astray by the preacher preaching his own ideas however much askew from God's precise truth.

Because they refuse to use bible codes?

31 posted on 12/06/2004 12:53:38 PM PST by topcat54
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To: Quix
There are Jewish scholars for whom this is now true.

Names please. Or are you just blowing smoke again?

32 posted on 12/06/2004 1:02:18 PM PST by topcat54
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To: topcat54

HAVE NEVER blown you smoke

in contrast to what you've sent my way.

Given your persistent attitude, I have absolutely no need to do your research for you.

The information is readily available.


33 posted on 12/06/2004 1:26:33 PM PST by Quix (5having a form of godliness but denying its power. I TIM 3:5)
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To: topcat54

Because the construe their own rigid, narrow, traditions of men; denominational biases;

their own INTELLECUTALIZATIONS, RATIONALIZATIONS AND ASSUMPTIONS

as Gospel Truth

When, in fact, such are often if not overly persistently not only far from God's Truth

but quite opposed to it.

That can get quite disturbing.


34 posted on 12/06/2004 1:28:23 PM PST by Quix (5having a form of godliness but denying its power. I TIM 3:5)
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To: reaganaut
First, the "bible code" is about politics NOT salvation.

Hogwash. The AUTHENTIC codes include in their number the same Salvation story as is included in The Gospel. INCLUDING THAT CHRIST CAME IN THE FLESH ETC. ACCORDING TO THE BIBLICAL STANDARD OUTLINED IN THE NT, THAT ALONE WOULD INDICATE THEY COME FROM HOLY SPIRIT--ASSUMING ONE BELIEVES THE NEW TESTAMENT!

I realize naysayers are not inclined to be influenced by the truth on this matter.

Second, these so-called Jewish scholars are considered 'fringe' by most well known and well respected Bible scholars.

WRONG AGAIN. Some of these scholars are amongst the most respected in Israel and in the USA. You should know this, if you have truly researched the matter yourself instead of

SWALLOWED THE POLITICAL NOISE FROM THE DISHONEST POLILTICAL NOISE MAKERS in so called academic circles.

Third, my point is that God doesn't use a "code". God's truths are plain in scripture, there is not need for the code. The idea that God would hide some things in Scripture for only a few elect with computers is nearing heresy.

God must be laughing his head off, when He's not crying at such statements. He must also think that the cheekiness at telling HIM what HE can and can't use is real . . . attractive.

I think it's part of HIS having fun with man and especially with the arrogance and RELIGIOUS SPIRIT tendencies of man.

BTW, perhaps you haven't thought of it . . .

Many codes are increasingly available in quality books with solid background and details. I realize you would not likely consult such factual texts but they are there for anyone who prefers books to computers.

I guess that thought never crossed your brilliant mind.

35 posted on 12/06/2004 1:37:28 PM PST by Quix (5having a form of godliness but denying its power. I TIM 3:5)
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To: Gamecock

No heresy involved AT ALL.

Deal with it.


36 posted on 12/06/2004 1:38:35 PM PST by Quix (5having a form of godliness but denying its power. I TIM 3:5)
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To: reaganaut; All

BESIDES ALL THAT,

THERE'S NO WAY that the codes are ANYTHING OTHER THAN PART AND PARCEL OF SCRIPTURE.

That alone should clue any . . . child . . .

with a shred of child-like faith and/or understanding

that they came from Holy Spirit who dictated the words, word order--some Jewish scholars would insist even letter by letter for the Pentatuch.

There's no way to have the authentic Codes without Scripture and no way to have the Authentic Scripture without the Codes because the same Holy Spirit put both together in one extremely integrated holistic package, indivisable.

How any thinking person can rationalize around that issue and pretend it's not true is absolutely mystifying to me

. . . unless it's yet another example of man's perversity in arguing with God's majesty and creative all knowing, all powerful timelessness.


37 posted on 12/06/2004 1:54:19 PM PST by Quix (5having a form of godliness but denying its power. I TIM 3:5)
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To: Quix

According to most sources, heresy is an opinion or doctrine in philosophy, politics, science, art, etc., at variance with those generally accepted as authoritative.

I would say that sums up the whole Bible Code business.

Deal with that.


38 posted on 12/06/2004 1:57:15 PM PST by Gamecock (Threads started by Gamecock on FR do not necessarily represent the views of the GRPL)
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To: Quix

Here you go again. Posting Bible code stuff so that you can bait those who disagree and tell them how lost they are for not believing a code. Get a life.


39 posted on 12/06/2004 2:00:08 PM PST by Invincibly Ignorant
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To: Gamecock

Perhaps true of so called authorities ignorant of, blind of or resistent to

the true, solid, demonstrable, proven facts in the matter.


40 posted on 12/06/2004 2:01:43 PM PST by Quix (5having a form of godliness but denying its power. I TIM 3:5)
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