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Contact your bishops immediately! Liberal Bishop to Lead USCCB Liturgy Committee
Amy Welborn's "Open Book" blog ^ | 11/16/04 | GregY

Posted on 11/16/2004 11:29:34 AM PST by GregY

The bishops have apparently now voted Bishop Trautman as head of the Bishops Committee on the Liturgy. This is horrible, horrible news for those of us who are more traditional on matters liturgical. In this America article, Bishop Trautman expresses his views about the wretched oppression Rome is visiting upon the Church with its attempts to reform the liturgy.


TOPICS: Catholic; Worship
KEYWORDS: 2004; bishop; catholic; conference; fall; liberal; liturgical; liturgy; reform; reverence; sacred; trautman; usccb; worship
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To: AlbionGirl

No schism - stop funding. If a Bishop funding boycott was organized like the Stop Specter campaign, I just know we'd see results.

The shock value alone!!! LOL!


41 posted on 11/16/2004 4:44:17 PM PST by Lauren BaRecall (Bork Specter)
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To: rogator

"Complaints to bishops are filed in the round file and are not worth the time it takes to write them."

I've written literally hundreds of respectful letters of complaint to bishops over the years and never once received an encouraging reply.
The few who bother to write back usually explain how "busy they are with other more important matters" - yeah, like interfaith activities or ministry to gays and lesbians.


42 posted on 11/16/2004 4:47:41 PM PST by AskStPhilomena
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To: GregY

When will this hapless bench of bishops learn their lesson? How depressing.


43 posted on 11/16/2004 5:03:40 PM PST by Unam Sanctam
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To: NYer; Tantumergo; thor76; Grey Ghost II

Thanks for the link, NY. If you look at his diocesan homepage, www.eriercd.org/bishop_vitae.asp, please note who he studied under: Modernist Karl Rahner!!!!! Do not be surprised at what may occur in the Liturgy Committee under his lead.


"The victory of the vernacular in the Church's liturgy signals unmistakably the becoming of a World Church, whose individual churches exist independently in their respective cultural phrases, inculturated, and no longer a European import." --Fr. Karl Rahner, "The Priest-Mover of the Catholic Church," New York Times Magazine, September 23, 1979


45 posted on 11/16/2004 5:18:24 PM PST by corpus
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To: Unam Sanctam

Some if they are lucky will learn in purgatory....but they are not all bad...and their job is rough...so they need lots and lots of prayer and when they are bad we need to be light and stand up for the truth and pray even more.

St. Thomas of Canterbury, pray for our bishops,
St. Augustine, pray for our bishops,
St. Martin of Tours, pray for our bishops,
St. Charles Borromeo, pray for our bishops.

O Blessed Mother,
spread your mantle over these, the servants of your Son,
anointed and appointed to be our shepherds here on earth.
They are under such attack from the evil one,
and being human, they often slip and fall.
Pray for them, Blessed Mother,
that they will learn true contriteness of heart,
humility of soul,
and be filled with the burning desire to shepherd the flocks of Christians in their charge.

O Jesus, meek and humble of heart,
have mercy on us,
especially on those you have appointed to guide us,
and may your voice reach into their hearts
and kindle in them the fire of divine love,
this day, and always.

Amen.


46 posted on 11/16/2004 5:19:43 PM PST by Knitting A Conundrum (Act Justly, Love Mercy, and Walk Humbly With God Micah 6:8)
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To: corpus

"...whose individual churches exist independently in their respective cultural phrases, inculturated, ..."

So this is why we have "liturgical dance.
What's next? Animal sacrifice?


47 posted on 11/16/2004 5:27:05 PM PST by rogator
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To: sartorius

Excellent!


49 posted on 11/16/2004 5:29:44 PM PST by AlbionGirl (+Ecce Agnus Dei, ecce qui tollit peccata mundi.+)
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To: sartorius

I needed to read that, thanks.


50 posted on 11/16/2004 5:32:05 PM PST by AlbionGirl (+Ecce Agnus Dei, ecce qui tollit peccata mundi.+)
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To: sartorius

He's so Prussian looking, isn't he?


51 posted on 11/16/2004 5:33:09 PM PST by AlbionGirl (+Ecce Agnus Dei, ecce qui tollit peccata mundi.+)
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To: Lauren BaRecall
If a Bishop funding boycott was organized like the Stop Specter campaign, I just know we'd see results.

You're probably right. We could call it the BTB Campaign, Bork the Bishops! And after we Bork them, tradition holds we give 'em a good, swift kick in jodphurs!

52 posted on 11/16/2004 5:36:09 PM PST by AlbionGirl (+Ecce Agnus Dei, ecce qui tollit peccata mundi.+)
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To: sartorius
Pax vobiscum, Albion Girl!

Same to you, Sartorius, many times over, and the same to that dedicated and devoted Priest in your family.

54 posted on 11/16/2004 5:45:07 PM PST by AlbionGirl (+Ecce Agnus Dei, ecce qui tollit peccata mundi.+)
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To: GregY

What good will protest do? None of this matters--it was the bishops who elected this prelate and it is the bishops who want him where he is. These men are not true Catholics--nor is the Mass truly Catholic which they push on the faithful.


55 posted on 11/16/2004 5:45:39 PM PST by ultima ratio
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To: sartorius

Very good - funny also!


56 posted on 11/16/2004 5:57:57 PM PST by Gerish (Choose God, he has already chosen you.)
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To: GregY
This is horrible, horrible news for those of us who are more traditional Catholic on matters liturgical.

Edited for complete disclosure.

57 posted on 11/16/2004 6:22:15 PM PST by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: Maximilian

Although I can agree with you on almost every word you wrote in this post, we will disagree (to a degree) on the last sentence.

Take two aspirin. Click on my name in this post and read the text from GKChesterton.

Fight on!! as I will. Trautman delendum est!!!


58 posted on 11/16/2004 6:25:50 PM PST by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: sockmonkey
Is his demeanor/affect kind of "swishy" ?

Consider the past Kommandants-in-Pink of BCLiturgywonkPoofter:

Weakland, Pilarczyk, prominentos among them.

59 posted on 11/16/2004 6:30:21 PM PST by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: thor76

In response to your question: "AK or butterfly net" I will relate a TRUE story.

A number of years ago, a young man not entirely in possession of his faculties was seen wandering aimlessly on the road in front of the Archbishop's residence in Milwaukee. Mind you, the house is set back about 1000 yards from the road...

Abp Weakland saw this fellow, who was carrying a paper sack--a grocery bag. He became afraid. VERY afraid. So he called the cops.

The cops duly arrived and questioned the slightly demented peregrinus. Oh, he was carrying a weapon, alright:

inside the grocery bag were several rolls of toilet paper.

It doesn't take very much to frighten poofterwonks. If you go into the Conference waving a Kleenex, several of them will faint dead away.


60 posted on 11/16/2004 6:35:38 PM PST by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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