Posted on 11/15/2004 2:31:05 PM PST by nonsumdignus
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very good point nonsumdignus. I've always thought it outrageous that these folks are the ones the bishops come down so hard upon, while pro-abortion pols are coddled. I don't condone schism and they should get in trouble, but other "catholics" deserve far more trouble and aren't getting any.
I wish the bishop of Colorado Springs would at least try and investigate why this schismatic community flourished in his diocese - specifically what is lacking from dioscesan parish life that so many people felt a need for? Perhaps he could make some improvements, like indult Masses, and give the schismatics a run for their money.
This is because heresy from the pulpit doesn't cost the Bishop any money, while schismatic chapels do.
That isn't "unjustified wrath," though. It's called "rightly interpreting canon law". Catholics are required to be married before a Catholic priest with proper jurisdiction, or to get the appropriate dispensations from their ordinary. Otherwise their marriages are invalid. That's how things worked before Vatican II, also.
But Rome recognizes marriages between Protestants in Protestant churches?
(I'm not necessarily talking about Protestants who are ex-Catholics, however.)
I don't think I ever heard of Ludwig Ott, but in the RCC, every marriage is always presumed valid, schismatic or not. This novus ordo priest who stated they were not married is simply slinging empty and heretical slander.
Its amazing that the novus ordo crowd never takes notice at the strong and emotional animosity that the modern hierarchy of the Church of Vatican II manifests toward traditional Catholicism. In this ecumenical age, when the modern hierarchy "bends over backwards" to seek a false unity amongst all religions (Christian and non-Christian alike), all are lovingly received and recognized. Isnt it ironic that any and all religions are accepted by the Church of Vatican II as long as they are not traditional Roman Catholic? How out of line appears our Catholic belief that Jesus Christ, our Messias and Redeemer, founded a Church and that membership in that Church is a necessary condition for salvation. This is looked upon as simply an intolerable doctrine.
**they never were married because the church isnt sanctioned by Rome.**
I'm wondering what order of dissenting (outlaw) priests we have running this church? Why won't they talk to the bishop?
A priest without faculties cannot be the official representative of the Church.
That's far too sensible a position.
I agree that it's getting a bit outrageous that Trads, schismatic as they may be, are the ones that always get dumped on by the Church, yet some of the more ridiculous queer heretic priests, parishes, and dioceses go untouched.
My point wasn't that the bishop isn't justified in interpreting Canon law, but rather, there seems to be alot more public accomodation to those who have alot less in common with Catholics (ie, Protestants, Lutherans, etc) than those traditional Catholics who only desire that their Church reinforce what She has always taught (but which their bishop refuses to teach).
There seems to be an infinite wellspring of charity towards the former group; and in classic liberal fashion, an harsh intolerance to the latter. Perhaps this is because to do so would be to acknowledge the errors that traditionalists seek to correct.
http://www.dioceseoflincoln.org/purple/marriages/index.htm
I recall a Catholic who was married in a Protestant church and who was told by his pastor that in his diocese the bisop approved (dispensed) this type of arrangement, in effect a blanket dispensation.
I recall a Catholic who was married in a Protestant church and who was told by his pastor that in his diocese the bisop approved (dispensed) this type of arrangement, in effect a blanket dispensation.
Now he needs to address his pro-abort parishes up North.
The problem is that the schismatics have passed themselves off as Catholic--fraudulently.
There was no dispensation.
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