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Bishop Warns Of Rogue (Catholic) Church To Membership
The Denver Channel ^ | 11/15/2004 | The Denver Channel

Posted on 11/15/2004 2:31:05 PM PST by nonsumdignus

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To: BlackElk
I am a Roman Catholic and not a schismatic. Whether you attend an indult Mass or not, your sympathies are obvious, and they are not with Rome and not submissive to the promises of Christ to be with the Church all days unto the end of the world. You ARE lost but cannot discern the difference.

You clain the name "Roman Catholic", yet you twist the words of Christ into some vague meaning. "I will be with you always" means that He will remain with those who are faithful to Him. When He is pushed off and put into the obscure closet, neglected and abused by the Judas' that are supposed to worship Him, HE LEAVES.

Yes, He will always be with those who remain faithful to Him and the Church He established, in the Blessed Sacrament, through the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass. The end of time is marked by the last Holy Sacrifice of the Mass - not by any new liturgy.

101 posted on 11/21/2004 11:33:13 AM PST by Stubborn (It Is The Mass That Matters)
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To: Stubborn
Marcel was disobedient thats true, but not rebellious

Pray tell, how does one become "disobedient" without first being "rebellious?"

Ol' Marcel declared himself Pope by directly rebelling against (and then disobeying) Paul VI.

There's only room for one Pope.

QED: Marcel loses.

102 posted on 11/21/2004 6:15:19 PM PST by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: Stubborn
The end of time is marked by the last Holy Sacrifice of the Mass - not by any new liturgy.

The very last Holy Sacrifice of the Mass may well be in NO, whether you or I like it or not.

103 posted on 11/21/2004 6:17:01 PM PST by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: ninenot
Pray tell, how does one become "disobedient" without first being "rebellious?"

By remaining faithful to the Perennial Magisterium.

104 posted on 11/21/2004 7:18:29 PM PST by Stubborn (It Is The Mass That Matters)
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To: ninenot
The very last Holy Sacrifice of the Mass may well be in NO, whether you or I like it or not.

In the NO, theres only the New Liturgy, not the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass.

105 posted on 11/21/2004 7:20:19 PM PST by Stubborn (It Is The Mass That Matters)
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To: Stubborn; BlackElk

Well, that pretty much eliminates rational dispute with you.


106 posted on 11/22/2004 5:11:19 AM PST by ninenot (Minister of Membership, TomasTorquemadaGentlemen'sClub)
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To: ninenot

I guess if you don't understand that the New Liturgy and the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass are two different things, then I agree, theres nothing to dispute.


107 posted on 11/22/2004 5:23:15 AM PST by Stubborn (It Is The Mass That Matters)
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To: ninenot
The very last Holy Sacrifice of the Mass may well be in NO, whether you or I like it or not.

I think you meant to say the very last celebration may well be the NO. It's not a scrifice anymore.

108 posted on 11/22/2004 6:08:00 AM PST by Grey Ghost II
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To: Grey Ghost II; ninenot; GirlShortstop; saradippity; Salvation; sandyeggo
Well, Caspar, mucking through the obscurity of your verbiage, one suspects that you accuse the Roman Catholic Church's leaders (those in communion with His Holiness and with their duly appointed diocesan ordinaries) of "polluting the minds of innocent children" and leading people away from what you apparently deem (upon your nonexistent authority) to be the Church.

Translating your anti-Church propaganda into English, it would appear that you believe that Church leaders are leading children away from the ineffable wisdom and unfathomable degradation of the excommunicated schismatic known as Marcel the Impudent and, of course, away from your own personal cultural and liturgical tastes masquerading as the church.

No one sought your sympathy. Few will within the Church itself. None wisely. Don't let the door hit you........ Thanks for the obvious admissions,

Consider yourself told.

109 posted on 11/22/2004 1:03:29 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Stubborn

Now you are quoting Luther as well as imitating his tactics.


110 posted on 11/22/2004 1:04:18 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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To: Stubborn

And I had always thought that Henry VIII was an apostate royal of unquenchable appetites and certainly not a pious Catholic monk. Luther had a curious track record for a "pious Catholic monk" as well.


111 posted on 11/22/2004 1:07:54 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline of the Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Club)
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