Very simple guide to praying/learning the Rosary

Welcome to the Religion Forum, bonserv!

I am a former Catholic who has chosen to rely on what the Holy Spirit supernaturally preserved in Word of God.

No religion takes scripture more literally than the Catholic Church.

Matt 6:7
7 And when you pray, do not use vain repetitions as the heathen do. For they think that they will be heard for their many words.

Are you referring to the repetition of the 'Hail Mary'? The Bible uses repetition to indicate emphasis and the highest degree of something.

Is 6:3
"Holy, holy, holy is the Lord of Hosts!" they (the Seraphim) cried one to another.

The Psalms are a good example of repetition in prayer. Psalm 150 records a twelve-fold repetition in one psalm.

I don't follow the rationale behind your quotes from Matthew and Galatians ... however ...

Mary is mentioned once in the Book of Acts with "his" brethren, and is not mentioned in any of the epistles:

Acts 1:14
14 These all continued with one accord in prayer and supplication, with the women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and with his brethren.

Mary is prefigured immediately after the Fall of Man; her divine motherhood is prophesied.

Gen 3:14-15: Then the Lord God said to the serpent: "... I will put enmity between you and the woman, and between your offspring and hers; He will strike at your head, while you strike at his heel."

Mary and her role in the history of our salvation is foretold by the prophet Isaiah; her virginity and divine motherhood is confirmed.

Is 7:14: Therefore the Lord himself will give you this sign: the virgin shall be with child, and bear a son, and shall name him Immanuel.

Matthew begins his genealogy with Abraham and ends with Mary.

Mt 1:16: Jacob the father of Joseph, the husband of Mary. Of her was born Jesus who is called the Messiah.

Luke narrates the angel Gabriel's announcement to Mary that she is to conceive a son and remain a virgin.

Lk 1: 26-38: ...(The angel Gabriel said) "Hail, favored one! The Lord is with you ... The holy Spirit will come upon you, and the power of the Most High will overshadow you. Therefore the child to be born will be called holy, the Son of God." ... Mary said, "Behold, I am the handmaid of the Lord. May it be done to me according to your word."

Luke also narrates Mary's visit to her cousin Elizabeth (pregnant with John the Baptist). It is Elizabeth who first calls Mary "the mother of God (Lord)".

Lk 1:39-45: ... When Elizabeth heard Mary's greeting, the infant leaped in her womb, and Elizabeth, filled with the holy Spirit, cried out in a loud voice and said, "Most blessed are you among women, and blessed is the fruit of your womb. And how does this happen to me, that the mother of my Lord should come to me? ... Blessed are you who believed that what was spoken to you by the Lord would be fulfilled."
Lk 1:46-49: And Mary said: "My soul proclaims the greatness of the Lord; my spirit rejoices in God my savior. For he has looked upon his handmaid's lowliness; behold, from now on will all ages call me blessed. The Mighty One has done great things for me, and holy is his name."

Matthew records Mary's engagement to Joseph.

Mt. 1:18-25: ... When his mother Mary was betrothed to Joseph, but before they lived together, she was found with child through the holy Spirit. ... the angel of the Lord appeared to him in a dream and said, "Joseph, son of David, do not be afraid to take Mary your wife into your home. For it is through the holy Spirit that this child has been conceived in her. She will bear a son and you are to name him Jesus, because he will save his people from their sins." He (Joseph) had no relations with her until she bore a son, and he named him Jesus.

Luke narrates the birth events of Jesus.

Lk 2:1-19: ... Joseph too went up from Galilee from the town of Nazareth to Judea, to the city of David that is called Bethlehem, because he was of the house and family of David, to be enrolled with Mary, his betrothed, who was with child. While they were there, the time came for her to have her child, and she gave birth to her firstborn son. She wrapped him in swaddling clothes and laid him in a manger ... (Shepherds) went in haste and found Mary and Joseph, and the infant ... Mary kept all these things (that the shepherds told her), reflecting on them in her heart.

Luke includes the circumcision and presentation of Jesus.

Lk 2:33-35: The child's father and mother were amazed at what was said about him; and Simeon blessed them and said to Mary his mother, "Behold, this child is destined for the fall and rise of many in Israel, and to be a sign that will be contradicted (and you yourself a sword will pierce) so that the thoughts of many hearts may be revealed."

Luke narrates the loss and finding of Jesus in the temple in Jerusalem by Mary and Joseph.

Lk 2:48-51: When his parents saw him, they were astonished, and his mother said to him, "Son, why have you done this to us? Your father and I have been looking for you with great anxiety." And he said to them, "Why were you looking for me? Did you not know that I must be in my Father's house?" But they did not understand what he said to them. He went down with them and came to Nazareth, and was obedient to them; and his mother kept all these things in her heart.

John records the wedding feast at Cana where Mary prompts Jesus' first miracle.

Jn 2:1-12: On the third day there was a wedding in Cana in Galilee, and the mother of Jesus was there. Jesus and his disciples were also invited to the wedding. When the wine ran short, the mother of Jesus said to him, "They have no wine." (And) Jesus said to her, "Woman, how does your concern affect me? My hour has not yet come." His mother said to the servers, "Do whatever he tells you." ... Jesus did this as the beginning of his signs in Cana in Galilee and so revealed his glory, and his disciples began to believe in him. After this, he and his mother, (his) brothers, and his disciples went down to Capernaum and stayed there only a few days.

Matthew writes of Jesus' own words that compare his relationship with his followers to his relationship with his mother.

Mt 12:46-50 (Mk 3:31-35): While he was still speaking to the crowds, his mother and his brothers appeared outside, wishing to speak with him. ... And stretching out his hand toward his disciples, he said, "Here are my mother and my brothers. For whoever does the will of my heavenly Father is my brother, and sister, and mother."

It is John (an eye witness) who recalls his personal experience at the foot of the cross on Calvary.

Jn 19:25-27: Standing by the cross of Jesus were his mother and his mother's sister, Mary the wife of Clopas, and Mary of Magdala. When Jesus saw his mother and the disciple there whom he loved, he said to his mother, "Woman, behold, your son." Then he said to the disciple, "Behold, your mother." And from that hour the disciple took her into his home.

Luke, in his Acts of the Apostles, records the presence of Mary with the Apostles in the community in Jerusalem between the Ascension of Jesus and Pentecost.

Acts 1:12-14: Then they returned to Jerusalem from the mount called Olivet, which is near Jerusalem, a sabbath day's journey away. When they entered the city they went to the upper room where they were staying. ... All these devoted themselves with one accord to prayer, together with some women, and Mary the mother of Jesus, and his brothers.

A final reference to Mary is found in John's Book of Revelation.

Rev 12:1-5: A great sign appeared in the sky, a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars. She was with child and wailed aloud in pain as she labored to give birth. ... She gave birth to a son, a male child, destined to rule all the nations with an iron rod. Her child was caught up to God and his throne.

Whatever your reasons for leaving the Catholic Church, you are always welcome "home".

ONCE CATHOLIC

OK, let me guess...........

You don't say the Lord's Prayer either!

Get with the program. We all say prayers in repitition.

I always end the Rosary with the prayer: ...But I don't know the name of this prayer. Anybody know?

Most people do the same. That's known as the final prayer. It's linked in the article up top, but you may have missed it being that it has no designated nomenclature.

P.S. I have family and friends who are Catholic and are Born Again believers, which indicates to me salvation comes from knowing Jesus Christ as savior.

Just curious but what do you mean by "Born Again"?

Yep, I did miss it! Sorry... I just glossed over the picture, and didn't link on it. >>blushing<<

MMJ

"OK - I see what you did. You do have it a #6, I was looking at #4. I think some/many/most? don't say the Fatima prayer after the initial 3 Hail Mary's but I do."

So do I. But I wasn't taught to say the final prayer.

Aaargh. Something more to find the Latin for and memorize.

Fr. Francis Mary reads the Sublime Humility prayer on EWTN's introduction to the Daily Mass.

'tis wonderful to hear it recited. ;-)

Thank you NYer for the Saint Francis book of prayer information too... I plan on asking around about that one. Hopefully an older relative will have one to share since I struck out at the library. :-(

nevertheless... appropriately... Pax et Bonum FRiend!

Just a little thing, but I'd place the luminous mysteries directly after the joyful.

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Christ was not deriding traditions in toto.

Only those that are contrary to God's Word!

What are the words to the Fatima prayer?

-Pio the Rosary newbie (never heard of the Rosary till I was an adult)

OK, nevermind....

For the other newbies...

The Fatima Prayer

O my Jesus
Forgive us ours sins,
save us from the fires of Hell, lead all souls to Heaven, especially those most in need of thy mercy.

Matt 6:7 7 And when you pray, do not use vain repetitions as the heathen do.

I think the keyword is vain.

If you're here to tell us that the words of the Rosary contradict the Scriptures or to describe the Rosary as vain then I advise you to leave now.

"OK, nevermind...."

When you post to me, you have to remember that I'm in Yokohama, and so may be sleeping or at work when you are posting. I didn't ignore your post intentionally; I was asleep.

Here's how I pray the Fatima Prayer when I tell my beads:

Domine Iesu, dimitte nobis debita nostra, salva nos ab igne inferiori, perduc in caelum omnes animas, praesertim eas, quae misericordiae tuae maxime indigent.

Hope that helps.

No, no I'm sorry, I wasn't being impatient. I was saying ..."duh, stupid me, it is right here on this link."

Okay, sorry I misread you.

reminder Bump for my travels...