Posted on 05/27/2004 7:10:58 AM PDT by AskStPhilomena
"If you forgive anyone his sins, they are forgiven; if you do not forgive them, they are not forgiven"
Seems oh so clear. Mr Henry MUST have been referring to something else. His commentary misses this verse by a country mile.
I find the security of
HIS ARMS
more than sufficient.
Too bad, you don't.
But thanks for constructive prayers.
Is your real name "Thomas"?
If a piece of bread is consecrated by a Catholic Priest, thus becoming literally the body of Christ, will it ever subsequently suffer corruption (decay)? Of course it will.
You have a very poor understanding of the dogma you wish to subject to experiment. Do you think the Catholic Church believes that its adherents eventually become full of communion wafers and explode, or do we perhaps have some ideas about how they are broken down in the digetive process?
You do not understand the concept of transubstantiation. The accidents of the bread remain and appear as bread. It tastes like bread, it looks like bread, it get soggy in milk like bread. It even reacts to the elements like bread. Its substance is the Body and Blood of Christ.
Substance is not something that you can put to the test, or detect with science or senses.
SD
SD
Define "Church".
BTW,
I'm quite securely within
HIS CHURCH UNIVERSAL.
Perhaps you are not aware of the fact that, as Scripture declares,
in our era,
ALL THAT CAN BE SHAKEN WILL BE SHAKEN.
That will be particularly true of the Roman group and every other traditions of man group.
We shall see how many fall out onto God's lap
and how many fall out onto satan's grip because they refused to follow
CHRIST'S VOICE, HIS SPIRIT
AND CHOSE INSTEAD
the comfort of traditions of men and RELIGIOUS STRUCTURES AND HABITS.
the SHAKING is coming.
Prepare yourself.
Traditions won't cut it.
There were many practices being brought into the early church that were unscriptural. The apostles spoke of many of these. John often spoke against the gnostics and Paul had his well known troubles with the Judiazing teachers and with pagan influences affecting the churches. Simply because some churches or writers made claims to be authoritative didn't make it so. Just because they may have been practiced somewhere did not make them scriptural. Should we embrace gnosticism today?
Define "traditions" vs "Traditions". I don't see any evidence that you have an understanding of the distinction.
Answer the question:
What traditions did St. Paul hold fast to and command others to follow?
"Therefore, brethren, stand fast: and hold the traditions, which you have learned, whether by word or by our epistle." (2 Thes. ii.14)
Define "Church".1 Peter 2:5 Ye also, as lively stones, are built up a spiritual house, an holy priesthood, to offer up spiritual sacrifices, acceptable to God by Jesus Christ.
6 Wherefore also it is contained in the scripture, Behold, I lay in Sion a chief corner stone, elect, precious: and he that believeth on him shall not be confounded.
7 Unto you therefore which believe he is precious: but unto them which be disobedient, the stone which the builders disallowed, the same is made the head of the corner,
8 And a stone of stumbling, and a rock of offence, even to them which stumble at the word, being disobedient: whereunto also they were appointed.
9 But ye are a chosen generation, a royal priesthood, an holy nation, a peculiar people; that ye should shew forth the praises of him who hath called you out of darkness into his marvellous light:
10 Which in time past were not a people, but are now the people of God: which had not obtained mercy, but now have obtained mercy.
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Ephesians 2:19 Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God;
20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone;
21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord:
22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.
Actually, my middle name is Thomas. And I was brought up RC. Thankfully, I was given some of the "doubting" spirit- as Paul directed (search the scriptures, etc), and found that Catholic Dogmas are those of men. Your explanation of transubstantiation is convenient. So when Jesus said "This is my body" he was really meant "this is bread, but the substance of this bread is my body"? Unfortunately, the RCC has taken a beautiful metaphor ("I am the bread of life" - was his substance really bread?) and twisted it into a man-made dogma. Worse yet, the RCC proclaims an anathema (denies salvation)to anyone who claims otherwise!
and protected from error,
over a Church founded by man.
Your Church is a man made invention,
your faith I have no doubt, is real but
your practice is flawed.
Remember many will cry out LORD, LORD!
but only those that kept
HIS commandments and
were obedient will know eternal LIFE.
When your works are
TESTED BY FIRE
will they survive?
Will you claim that you did not recognize HIM
When HE asks why you
SPURNED HIS CHURCH?
what will you say when he
ASKS ABOUT THE BIBLE CODE?
We only follow His lead...
John 6 53 Jesus said to them, "Amen, amen, I say to you, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man and drink his blood, you do not have life within you. 54 Whoever eats 19 my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life, and I will raise him on the last day. 55 For my flesh is true food, and my blood is true drink. 56 Whoever eats my flesh and drinks my blood remains in me and I in him. 57 Just as the living Father sent me and I have life because of the Father, so also the one who feeds on me will have life because of me. 58 This is the bread that came down from heaven. Unlike your ancestors who ate and still died, whoever eats this bread will live forever."
That's ridiculously selective verse citing as far as defining what "church" means. Do you really want to bet your eternal salvation on your interpretation?
Do you doubt Peter ?
The Church is the congregation of the Elect of God who have been Redeemed by the shed blood of Christ Jesus.
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