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No Longer Silent Phoenix Declaration
No Longer Silent Clergy for Justice ^ | Signers as of 11 May 2004

Posted on 05/11/2004 11:47:02 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler

No Longer Silent Phoenix Declaration

As Christian clergy we believe it is time to share our perspective concerning Gay, Lesbian, Bi-sexual and Transgendered (GLBT) persons. We celebrate the end of the debate. The verdict is in. Homosexuality is not a sickness, not a choice, and not a sin. We affirm that GLBT persons are distinctive, holy, and precious gifts to all who struggle to become the family of God.

We stand in solidarity as those who are committed to work and pray for full acceptance and inclusion of GLBT persons in our churches and in our world. GLBT persons are condemned and excluded by individuals and institutions, political and religious, who claim to be speaking the truth of Christian teaching. This leads directly and indirectly to intolerance, discrimination, suffering, and even death. Political and religious rhetoric has monopolized the public perception of the stance of Christian persons on this issue. This stance continues to cripple the spirit of innocent people. The Christian faith compels us to be part of the healing for the souls wounded by this tragic, violent, and destructive hatred. Therefore:

We stand with the countless Christian ministers, scholars, and laity who, from prayerful study of the scriptures and Christian tradition, find no rational biblical or theological basis to condemn or deny the rights of any person based on sexual orientation. The essence of Christian life is not focused on sexual orientation, but how one lives in relationship with God with compassion toward humanity.

We gratefully affirm our GLBT brothers and sisters, already a part of the church, who have been born, baptized, confirmed - many serving as leaders -- and apologize for their ill-treatment by many church leaders. We joyfully welcome GLBT persons, as we welcome all people, into our communities of faith.

We recognize GLBT persons have painfully suffered long enough from social inequality, from religious rhetoric and political leaders. We are tired of appalling, hurting, and violent actions toward GLBT persons. This violence must stop. Let us clear the air and move ahead to begin the healing process for the wounded souls who are victims of this tragic and violent abuse.

We celebrate the courage of all people who have refused to let the voice of intolerance and violence speak for Christianity. The determination of these people, especially GLBT persons, to meet hatred with love and to answer violence with compassion is an inspiration to us all, and prophetic witness of God's activity in our world.

And so we call for an end to all religious and civil discrimination against any person based on sexual orientation. All laws must protect the freedoms, rights, and equal legal standing of all persons. We will continue to work for and promote the dignity of GLBT persons and their inclusion in our socio-political, cultural and economic life.
If you are a clergy person in Arizona, and would like to add your signature to this declaration, please send an e-mail message to phoenixdeclaration@nolongersilent.org with your name, your organizational affiliation (and your *role* within that organization), and city. For example, "Pat McGillicuddy, Pastor, Church of What's Happening Now, Phoenix." The list of signatures will be updated as time permits.

Signers as of 11 May 2004

Note: The Declaration is primarily the statement of clergy members in Arizona, but we are also glad to hear from others who support our statement, such as lay persons, groups, and even those outside of Arizona.


TOPICS: Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics; Theology
KEYWORDS: bishop; homosexual; homosexualagenda; olmstead; phoenix
For those of you who were wondering what the Phoenix priests had signed.
1 posted on 05/11/2004 11:47:03 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler
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To: Jeff Chandler
God's "Declaration" on the issue:


"Thou shalt not lie with mankind as with womankind. IT IS ABOMINATION."

See, you can't claim to be Christian while endorsing, embracing and touting the homosexual lifestyle. In order to do so, you have to rewrite what is written in the Bible.
2 posted on 05/12/2004 5:30:17 AM PDT by defendingright
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To: Jeff Chandler
Gah, it's too early in the morning to read of such wickedness in high places.

Click here for a list of signers. PCUSA and UMA pastors are present in large quantities.

3 posted on 05/12/2004 5:46:07 AM PDT by jboot (Faith is not a work)
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To: Jeff Chandler
"We celebrate the end of the debate. The verdict is in. Homosexuality is not a sickness, not a choice, and not a sin. We affirm that GLBT persons are distinctive, holy, and precious gifts to all who struggle to become the family of God."

Where do they get that?

I think what they state is contrary. And certainly the verdict is NOT in as they want us to believe "fait accompli". The Church through the Catechism would beg to differ with them."

What they fail to mention is that GLBT are called to chastity, just as we all are. And without that the mission is not accomplished, and the rest is just words.

How could God's Priests put their name to an anabomination like this?

4 posted on 05/12/2004 7:10:17 AM PDT by Arguss
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To: defendingright; Jeff Chandler; *Homosexual Agenda
See, you can't claim to be Christian while endorsing, embracing and touting the homosexual lifestyle.

Absolutely correct.

In order to do so, you have to rewrite what is written in the Bible.

Actually, they just "re-interpret."

Have you heard the one about how Sodom was destroyed because they were inhospitable (mild word for "rape," if you ask me) to God's angels when they came to warn Lot? Yeah, just skips right over the part about the angels coming because Sodom was going to be destroyed for its sins. Later, they skip over the part where Jesus says this was a just punishment and try to say the He never addresses the sin of homosexuality.

5 posted on 05/12/2004 8:15:48 AM PDT by FormerLib (Feja e shqiptarit eshte terorizm.)
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To: Jeff Chandler
All heresy begins below the belt. Here is the evidence.
6 posted on 05/12/2004 8:26:22 AM PDT by johnb2004
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To: Jeff Chandler
INTREP - APOSTASY ALERT!
7 posted on 05/12/2004 8:26:30 AM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: Jeff Chandler
There is a group who stands against such non-sense from the theologically corrupt. Here it is:http://www.phoenixdeclaration.org/
I'm proud to be one who signed the second document.
8 posted on 05/12/2004 8:51:22 AM PDT by AZhardliner ((PCA) pastor)
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To: FormerLib
As a matter of fact, I have heard that very point IRT Sodom and Gomorrah. The Bible simply doesn't support their claim.
9 posted on 05/12/2004 10:33:23 AM PDT by defendingright
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To: AZhardliner
Bless you and the others for standing up for Truth. Those catholic priests in the Phoenix diocese are such an embarrassment to Catholics. Thanks to all of you and I pray daily for your success in overcoming the havoc wreaked by these erring priests and ministers that signed onto the other declaration and affiliate with "No LOnger Silent".
10 posted on 05/12/2004 11:20:07 AM PDT by saradippity
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To: Jeff Chandler
We stand with the countless Christian ministers, scholars, and laity who, from prayerful study of the scriptures and Christian tradition, find no rational biblical or theological basis to condemn or deny the rights of any person based on sexual orientation. The essence of Christian life is not focused on sexual orientation, but how one lives in relationship with God with compassion toward humanity.

There's very few of them, so they're very countable.

And some day they will be acCOUNTable before the bema seat of Almighty God. There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

11 posted on 05/13/2004 8:00:14 AM PDT by xzins (Retired Army and Proud of It!)
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To: defendingright
See, you can't claim to be Christian while endorsing, embracing and touting the homosexual lifestyle.

Quit adding to the Gospel.

12 posted on 05/13/2004 8:02:51 AM PDT by ksen (Free the GRPL 3! (Woody, CaRepubGal, Wrigley))
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To: Arguss
How could God's Priests put their name to an anabomination like this?

Because they are not really God's priests?

14 posted on 05/13/2004 8:06:20 AM PDT by ksen (Free the GRPL 3! (Woody, CaRepubGal, Wrigley))
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To: Jeff Chandler
I would beg to differ. The essence of Christianity has a great deal to do with sexual orientation. The "orientation" of all sexuality, i.e., the "sexual urge," is a gift from God that finds its completion in God. The sexual urge is what plugs a man and his wife into God's own ongoing creative activity in His divine plan for the propagation of the human race. So, to speak of a so-called "homosexual orientation" is a gross distortion of technical language that we cannot afford to buy into. The reason being is that "gay sex" is fruitless and it is not "oriented" toward anything in particular, except hedonism. Homosexuality is a gravely disordered condition that opposes God's plan for the human race. And just as a side note...homosexuality is a CHOICE. And that choice is made the very first time a person seeks sexual satisfaction with a person of the same gender and reinforces that choice with consequent encounters.
15 posted on 01/11/2006 1:09:52 PM PST by sacerdos97
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