New rules on the Holy Eucharist on Holy Thursday

Catholic Herald ^ | 03/15/2004 | Luke Coppen

[lrslattery]

The Vatican will publish strict new norms on the Eucharist next month, permanently changing the way Mass is celebrated throughout the world.

The Pope has authorised the publication of the norms on Holy Thursday, April 8, a year after his landmark encyclical on the Eucharist.

The final draft of the document, which is now being translated from Latin, will be a carefully edited version of the draft text leaked last September. The draft, which discouraged the reception of communion in both kinds and limited the role of altar girls, provoked an angry reaction from bishops in the English-speaking world.

After intensive episcopal lobbying, the Vatican is understood to have simplified the document and moderated some of the more controversial proscriptions.

The Catholic Herald has learned that the new norms will address some of the most divisive liturgical issues in the Catholic Church today. A source close to the Vatican said the document was part of a drive to "solemnise" the celebration of Mass and to counter a perceived lack of reverence for the Eucharist among Catholics.

It is also likely to challenge the view that the Second Vatican Council gave local bishops the authority to adapt the liturgy. It will also emphasise that Rome must guarantee the universality of the Mass.

[conservonator]

Really??? Some people stayed until the end... I normally see people executing the "eucharistic departure." Gather up your stuff, get in line for eucharist, get the eucharist, head out the back door!

Really?? So you're attending Mass regularly now?

[Onelifetogive]

Really?? So you're attending Mass regularly now?

It happens....In-laws and all!

[Onelifetogive]

Really?? So you're attending Mass regularly now?

Are you claiming that there's no such thing as the "eucharistic evacuation"???

[conservonator]

Are you claiming that there's no such thing as the "eucharistic evacuation"???

A handful of people hardly constitute an evacuation. Also, the improper actions of the few do not detract from the proper actions of the many.

[m4629]

Really??? Some people stayed until the end... I normally see people executing the "eucharistic departure." Gather up your stuff, get in line for eucharist, get the eucharist, head out the back door!

You do know who started this trend don't you?

It was Judas, who left immediately after Holy Communion at the very First Mass. He had serious business to take care of.

[lrslattery]

I have seen no details yet, but surely someone will leak something...maybe..

I'm curious if anyone else has heard or read anything?

[lrslattery]

You do know who started this trend don't you? It was Judas, who left immediately after Holy Communion at the very First Mass. He had serious business to take care of.

This is good, never heard it before! Do you mind if I 'borrow" it?

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

We have seen the golden calf in the temple and it is us.

Every once in a while a quote comes along which belongs in the FR Catholic Caucus Hall of Fame. This is one.

[m4629]

My pleasure. Thank you.

[Tuco Ramirez]

That's great!

I'm going to use that one...

[NeoCaveman]

We have seen the golden calf in the temple and it is us.

Every once in a while a quote comes along which belongs in the FR Catholic Caucus Hall of Fame. This is one.

Thanks.

[Unam Sanctam]

It was Judas, who left immediately after Holy Communion at the very First Mass. He had serious business to take care of.

ROTFL!

[Tantumergo]

"I normally see people executing the "eucharistic departure." "

Well, if they know that "spontaneous applause" is about to erupt, I can't honestly blame them!

[Salvation]

**A source close to the Vatican said the document was part of a drive to "solemnise" the celebration of Mass and to counter a perceived lack of reverence for the Eucharist among Catholics.**

This is looking good to me.

[Tantumergo]

"Could be worse.....he could wear her pointy, metal brassiere....."

That's for later when he's got his queer eye in - in private.

[Salvation]

**Yesterday I attended Mass in another diocese and the parishoners broke into spontaneous applause at the end of Mass, like "good show!" **

This happens for the choir at one Mass at our church. They are now singing a heritage hymmn at the end of Mass. "Holy, Holy, Holy" this last Sunday. Because I need to be in the vestibule I am usually following the priest out from wherever I am sitting.

If I hear people clapping now, I speak up and verbally say "No clapping during Lent."

Get the complaint to the pastoral council of your (or that) church. Things are starting to happen at my church because the pastoral council has harped to the priest about this for over a year.

But keep us in your prayers. Singing in a choir is not about a performance; it's about serving as a minister during the Mass.

Pinging some choir members.

[don-o]

the priest walked around during the sermon like Phil Donahue.

When I had stopped being a Baptist, and was casting about for were I was to go, the tenor of the Masses I attended definitely turned me off. I had begun to suspect the Real Presence was the real deal. So, I was pretty scandalized when, after the Consecration, the priest left the altar to work the crowd during the meet and greet.

I thank God that He vouchsafed me to find the Orthodox Church, where worship meet to the Creator is still offered.

[don-o]

If I hear people clapping now, I speak up and verbally say "No clapping during Lent.

AXIOS!

You are a man or woman after my own heart!

[Salvation]

**Well, if they know that "spontaneous applause" is about to erupt, I can't honestly blame them!**

We have a lady and her teenage son who absolutely hate the applause at the end of our contemporary choir Mass. This is exactly what they do!