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Melee at gay school
New York Daily News ^ | 10/10/03 | SONI SANGHA, JOE WILLIAMS and MICHELE McPHEE

Posted on 10/10/2003 1:48:17 AM PDT by kattracks

The fall afternoon started simply enough: A handful of gay teens from Harvey Milk High School lounged around a Lexus parked by a Starbucks in Greenwich Village on Tuesday.

Then things got violent.

One of the teens fiddled with the Lexus' sideview mirror, enraging the driver. Words, some of them possibly homophobic, were exchanged. A bottle was thrown at the luxury car.

The Lexus driver came at the teens with a screwdriver.

When all was said and done, three Harvey Milk students as well as the driver of the Lexus, Vernon Jones, 23, were arrested - and Jones had been jabbed in the back with his own screwdriver, police said.

"This guy in a car started saying things. He was, like, 'Oh, look at the gay people, saying he wanted to murder us and everything. Then a few kids started saying, 'What's your problem?'" Leomi M., 16, a transgender Harvey Milk student who saw the fracas across the street from the school, said yesterday.

"The guy came out of the car, pulled a screwdriver out of his pocket and we ran," said Leomi, who wore a wig, makeup and women's clothing.

As some teenagers scattered, Jones allegedly grabbed one 17-year-old student, Erica Simon, and "mushed her" in the face, said another witness.

"He was starting to mush a girl, and 15 kids ran back to help her. Erica was roughed up," said another student witness, Randy M., 19. "It was crazy. He was saying, 'Y'all f------ homos are going to hell. Y'all should have died when you were first born.'"

Simon, along with four other students, is accused of "kicking, punching, and beating" Jones with a broken umbrella, fists, and feet, police said. They also wrestled his screwdriver away and slammed it into his back.

Jones, of Brooklyn, suffered a puncture wound and was brought to St. Vincent's Medical Center, where he was treated and charged with menacing.

Simon, along with Kareem Macedon, 16, and Penn Lorenzo, 16 - all from Brooklyn - were charged with gang assault and menacing. Two other teens involved in the attack were being sought by cops yesterday, police said.

Police are not investigating the incident as a hate crime.

"He gets out with a screwdriver, and they attack him. This was not motivated by him seeking to harass them about being gay," said a police official. "The Harvey Milk students were the aggressors."

But the Manhattan district attorney's office said Jones could face additional charges.

"We are absolutely investigating whether it is a hate crime," said Barbara Thompson, a district attorney spokeswoman.

The four were slated to be arraigned at Manhattan Criminal Court last night.

Bill to protect students

Harvey Milk Principal William Salzman referred all calls to the Department of Education, which said the incident was under investigation.

The arrests came the same week that the City Council Education Committee held hearings on a bill designed in part to protect gay and lesbian students from taunts and harassment. School Safety Chief Ben Tucker said there have been no similiar incidents at the school since it opened in September - with dozens of protesters outside.

"I think everyone was on edge about it when the school opened .... The school is very visible, so it's not unreasonable to assume that the school could be a target, or that the students could be targets," Tucker said. "That's the reason the school exists in the first place - to give the students some comfort."

With Bill Farrell and Celeste Katz

Originally published on October 10, 2003



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: dontbendover; harveymilk; hmhs; meow
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1 posted on 10/10/2003 1:48:17 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
Words, some of them possibly homophobic, were exchanged.

[sarcasm]No liberal bias in this article.[/sarcasm]

2 posted on 10/10/2003 1:55:42 AM PDT by SpyGuy
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3 posted on 10/10/2003 1:56:35 AM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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To: kattracks
...said Leomi, who wore a wig, makeup and women's clothing.

His parents must be so proud.

4 posted on 10/10/2003 2:04:13 AM PDT by PaulJ
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To: PaulJ
Wow, this is great on so many levels. Starting with a 23 year old in a Lexus hanging at Gay high and ending with a drag queen street fight and a possible drive by "mushing".Cops NOT calling it a hate crime is a bonus. .........Man, 23 in a Lexus and getting your ass kicked at Harvey Milk HS.
5 posted on 10/10/2003 2:15:33 AM PDT by singletrack (..............................................................................)
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To: kattracks
I don't believe any of this. I believe there might be resentment in the area over special treatment of the mentally impaired, but I doubt anyone would come after them because of it.

On the other hand, if someone was screwing around with my Lexus I'd have a problem. The kids probably just made up the rest. It's not like they have a proper perspective on society to begin with, so what's to stop them.

Let's face the facts here. Homosexuality is a mental disorder on par with any other mentally debilitating condition. Anything that would cause an organism to voluntarily filter itself out of the gene pool can be recognized as such.

6 posted on 10/10/2003 2:15:42 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Democrats.. Socialists..Commies..Traitors...Who can tell the difference?)
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To: singletrack
You must have read a different article. They were at Starbucks when it happened, not at Harvey Milk HS.
7 posted on 10/10/2003 2:19:52 AM PDT by SC DOC
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To: Caipirabob
Homosexuality is a mental disorder on par with any other mentally debilitating condition. Anything that would cause an organism to voluntarily filter itself out of the gene pool can be recognized as such.

Fantastic quote, right on the money.

8 posted on 10/10/2003 2:23:27 AM PDT by The Turbanator
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To: SC DOC
Starbucks is only about 100 feet from Harvey Milk School, al,ost dorectly in front of it, and probably an informal hangout place for the students.
9 posted on 10/10/2003 2:29:07 AM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: singletrack
Dollars to donuts that 'Vernon Jones' from Brooklyn is African American.

I lived in NYC for 34 years - you get to read between the lines. This is probably why this isn't being considered a hate crime or bias incident.
10 posted on 10/10/2003 2:31:49 AM PDT by HitmanLV (I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered. My life is my own.)
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To: kattracks
But ... but ... but ... gays can't be violent. I mean, liberals are by definition intelligent, sensitive, consensus-building, and non-violent. Gays are liberal, so ipso facto they are non-violent. So, this crime is clearly the result of the right-wing, fascist, pro-Schwarzenegger conspiracy from within the Republican party. Those weren't gay children, they were actually suburban Christians who posed as gays and deliberately acted violent after creating a provocation for the sole purpose of defacing the good name of gay children everywhere.

Yeah, right. [/sarcasm]

11 posted on 10/10/2003 3:03:15 AM PDT by tom h
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To: kattracks
One of the teens fiddled with the Lexus' sideview mirror, enraging the driver

How insensistive of the Lexus owner, the little darling was probably just borrowing it to fix his mascara.

12 posted on 10/10/2003 3:12:00 AM PDT by putupon (This Space for Sale or Rent, call BR-549)
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To: SpyGuy
I'm still pondering the fact that "homophobic words" were "exchanged." Both sides seemed to be speaking something that might be called Homophobics. I take it that this is a dialect of English, something akin to Ebonics.
13 posted on 10/10/2003 3:12:23 AM PDT by Malesherbes
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To: HitmanNY
And where (at 23) did he get the Lexus? This has a ring of "drug deal that got weird" to me. Vern was happy to sell to the interesting folks at HMHS, but didn't want them to touch his car ...
15 posted on 10/10/2003 3:29:44 AM PDT by Tax-chick (When in the course of human events ...)
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To: Living Free in NH
Mush=snog ??

Ah , the language of the young, so elequent, so picturesque!
16 posted on 10/10/2003 3:32:22 AM PDT by tet68 (multiculturalism is an ideological academic fantasy maintained in obvious bad faith. M. Thompson)
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To: kattracks
The school is very visible, so it's not unreasonable to assume that the school could be a target, or that the students could be targets," Tucker said. "That's the reason the school exists in the first place - to give the students some comfort."

Nothing contradictory about those statements, is there? Let's just make the students more comfortable by putting them all in one place so they'll be a huge target for haters.

17 posted on 10/10/2003 3:34:50 AM PDT by Amelia
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To: Tax-chick
I think you broke the code.
18 posted on 10/10/2003 3:50:43 AM PDT by dpa5923 (Small minds talk about people, normal minds talk about events, great minds talk about ideas.)
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To: Tax-chick
"This has a ring of "drug deal that got weird" to me. Vern was happy to sell to the interesting folks at HMHS, but didn't want them to touch his car ..."

LOL! I think you're close.
19 posted on 10/10/2003 3:58:49 AM PDT by avenir (Who's Afraid of the Art of Noise?)
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To: Tax-chick
And where (at 23) did he get the Lexus? This has a ring of "drug deal that got weird" to me.

I agree - something is fishy about this story, from both sides. I wonder if they searched both the Lexus and the drag queens and what they found.

Then again, you'd be surprised at some of the nice cars young people in NY have, funded by their parents. Girls I went to high school with were given Corvettes and Camaros by their folks.

I wasn't so fortunate - I paid for my rusted-out Datsun 210 station wagon with the fake wood-grain sides all by myself....

LQ

20 posted on 10/10/2003 4:29:16 AM PDT by LizardQueen
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