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Melee at gay school
New York Daily News ^ | 10/10/03 | SONI SANGHA, JOE WILLIAMS and MICHELE McPHEE

Posted on 10/10/2003 1:48:17 AM PDT by kattracks

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To: Thommas
No problem! They hear each others confessions, grant absolution and assign penance. Neat, clean and all in the brotherhood.
61 posted on 10/10/2003 10:07:32 AM PDT by Calamari
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To: Support Free Republic
Think the Lexus owner was black? Now that's a conundrum for the press.
62 posted on 10/10/2003 10:09:22 AM PDT by Hildy
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To: scripter
So, until we find a gene for lefthandedness we should assume that's just an aberrant behavior also. Left handers aren't born that way, it's a learned behavior.
63 posted on 10/10/2003 10:23:28 AM PDT by tdadams
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To: Thommas
"Medical" science, as a raison d' etare, is kinda funny, too. Prior to 1971, the APA considered homosexuality a neurosis on par with transvestitism and Turet's syndrome (sarcasm)

Well, hey, why stop there? Let's forget about anything we've learned since the good old days. Why don't we teach that the sun revolves around the earth. Prior to 1632 the world considered that to be the gospel truth (literally). The church finally came around to exonerating Galileo for his audacious theory in 1992. Prior to 1892, most of the U.S. didn't consider Afican-Americans to be biologically human. They considered them to be on par with a dog or a mule.

Why don't we just go back, huh?

64 posted on 10/10/2003 10:30:47 AM PDT by tdadams
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To: kattracks
Moral CRIPPLE FIGHT!
65 posted on 10/10/2003 10:33:26 AM PDT by strela ("It's about governance. It's not about sermons." Brooks Firestone)
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To: John O
The organism being filtered out is the person committing the homosexual behavior, not the behavior.

Sorry, that doesn't seem to make much sense. We're all "filtered out" eventually. We all die, unless you have some secret immortality you're not telling us about.

What about people who don't have children either by choice or by inability? Are they somehow an abomination also?

I'm sure you think this Darwinian argument is so very persuasive, but trying looking objectively. It's really a very weak argument.

66 posted on 10/10/2003 10:38:01 AM PDT by tdadams
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To: Caipirabob
Let's face the facts here. Homosexuality is a mental disorder on par with any other mentally debilitating condition. Anything that would cause an organism to voluntarily filter itself out of the gene pool can be recognized as such.

Say what. Catholic priests are mentally disordered? Also nuns. Mother Therese was and the Pope himself?

67 posted on 10/10/2003 11:15:32 AM PDT by sumocide
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To: tdadams
me->The organism being filtered out is the person committing the homosexual behavior, not the behavior.

you->Sorry, that doesn't seem to make much sense. We're all "filtered out" eventually. We all die, unless you have some secret immortality you're not telling us about.

We are talking about the gene pool here. If I die without having children (preserving my genes) then I have filtered myself out of the gene pool. Since homosexual behavior has no chance of passing on the genes of the participants it is a behavior that effectively filters the practitioners of that behavior from the gene pool.

What about people who don't have children either by choice or by inability? Are they somehow an abomination also?

They are simply removing themselves (their genes actually) from the pool. Who said anything about abomination here?

The original point of the discussion was that 'homosexuality' is a mental disease, as is any 'sexual preference' that does not have a chance of producing children (necrophilia, beastiality etc)

68 posted on 10/10/2003 11:20:37 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: tdadams
You said:
Of course we should take your word on this and not listen to those silly medical associations who say it isn't. What do they know.
I then provided a statement from a gay activist [Simon Levay] who said the APAs decision to declassify homosexuality as a mental disease was the result of "Gay activism". It certainly wasn't the result of new scientific research.

When lefthanded folks start asking for rights based on their behavior of using their left hand, when the use of their left hand can spread a deadly disease to innocents though the blood supply, perhaps then we can discuss your statement.

All the facts and research state the major factor in determining homosexuality is environment. Homosexuality behavior is a choice and having realized this, thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle.

69 posted on 10/10/2003 11:42:30 AM PDT by scripter (Thousands have left the homosexual lifestyle.)
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To: MEGoody
What Kevlar was pointing out is that, if homosexuality is genetic, then it would have been 'selected out' of the gene pool naturally eons ago.

Until recently gays were pressed to "act straight" and so far as to marry and have children.

If it becomes so acceptable to fully live the homosexual lifestyle that they NEVER get married or have children THEN in a few generations homosexuality will fade away. That is only if it is genetic.

So basically...

1. If homosexuality is a choice, and there is no genetic component, there is no basis for "gay rights."

or

2. If homosexuality is a genetic "defect," letting it be fully expressed will eventually lead to it fading away.

Sounds like a "win-win" proposition to me...

70 posted on 10/10/2003 12:00:18 PM PDT by Crusher138 (crush her? I don't even know her!)
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To: Crusher138
"If homosexuality is a genetic "defect," letting it be fully expressed will eventually lead to it fading away."

If they keep it a private matter as they keep screaming that it is (all the while conducting those silly gay pride parades), then there's no problem. When they demand that I 'accept' it as normal, they they have a problem.

71 posted on 10/10/2003 12:09:29 PM PDT by MEGoody
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Well look here, it seems one of the poor, oppressed queer kids pulled a knife on the mean-spirited gay basher.
72 posted on 10/11/2003 5:05:05 AM PDT by mountaineer
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To: kattracks
"That's the reason the school exists in the first place - to give the students some comfort."

I thought schools existed to give the students some education.

Ostensibly.

73 posted on 10/11/2003 5:16:58 AM PDT by Senator Goldwater
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