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1 posted on 10/09/2003 2:08:36 PM PDT by per loin
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2 posted on 10/09/2003 2:09:45 PM PDT by per loin
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3 posted on 10/09/2003 2:11:04 PM PDT by Support Free Republic (Your support keeps Free Republic going strong!)
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But he is a star
If tyson had still been champion,
He would not have been convicted.
4 posted on 10/09/2003 2:13:34 PM PDT by HuntsvilleTxVeteran (Rush agrees with me 98.5 % of the time.)
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The cost of adultery.
6 posted on 10/09/2003 2:14:24 PM PDT by 2timothy3.16
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Sounds like the "position" bothered her more than the "act".
8 posted on 10/09/2003 2:15:06 PM PDT by demsux
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a consensual sexual encounter that spiraled out of her control.

I really have to wonder what she thought was going to happen when she went into that hotel room.

10 posted on 10/09/2003 2:15:35 PM PDT by mountaineer
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I was initially amazed at the fact the defense didn't waive the eharing. Then I heard a talking head on one of the news nets this morning suggest that the defense was going to use the prelim as a way of arguing that the jury pool in Eagle Cty was too tainted to be fair. The defense allows the prelim, argues that the locals are too biased, and innoculates every other possible jury pool by getting the shick values info out early. I'm beginning to buy this explanation.
16 posted on 10/09/2003 2:18:17 PM PDT by mewzilla
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the woman described a consensual sexual encounter that spiraled out of her control.

Kobe walks.

19 posted on 10/09/2003 2:18:59 PM PDT by PRND21
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When Arnold ALLEGEDLY gropes someone, Maxine Waters/Gloria Allred & Co. go nuts. But when Kobe is actually charged with a crime, well, that's just because Eagle County is racist.
23 posted on 10/09/2003 2:20:42 PM PDT by Recourse
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We'll never know, yet they blocked Kobe from bringing up all her mental problems, so if convicted, look for the town to have many visiting rioters who will set the town on fire IMO!

Could happen when areas of defense are prohibited and a felony jail term is on the line.
33 posted on 10/09/2003 2:25:21 PM PDT by A CA Guy (God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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So this kid of an adult, this sports "superstar", who has more money than than maturity, marries a hottie without a prenup against the advice of his friends, fellow players and parents, then the high maintenance wifie figures she has it made and cuts him off, he wants to divorce her but the cost is too high. His hormones continue to rage, then viola, this young tart with her own demented history suddenly appears at the wrong place and the wrong time and WHAM, he makes a really stupid decision to act on it! So now, he faces prison time, will probably lose a big chunk o' money to both women in civil court and divorce settlements. Hardly what you'd call a success story.
48 posted on 10/09/2003 2:31:18 PM PDT by TADSLOS (Right Wing Infidel since 1954)
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It sounds as if this 19 yr old girl was used to having her boyfriend stop after some heavy petting. Unfortunately, she ended up locked in a room with an overpaid celebrity who thinks the world owes him something.

Both of them were surprised.
50 posted on 10/09/2003 2:32:14 PM PDT by Humidston (Do not remove this tag under penalty of law)
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Bryant has the right to go to trial within six months, but he could agree to push that back until later, perhaps after the NBA season ends early next summer.

Since when are criminal trials scheduled for the personal convenience of the defendant?

65 posted on 10/09/2003 2:42:05 PM PDT by Brandon
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Summary Of Accuser's Statement To Det. Doug Winter
Alleged Victim Tells Detective That There Was Mutual Flirting, Kissing

POSTED: 3:16 p.m. MDT October 9, 2003
UPDATED: 3:34 p.m. MDT October 9, 2003

Eagle County Detective Doug Winter said he interviewed the alleged victim at the sheriff's department.

The alleged victim told Winter that she was excited about meeting Bryant when she heard that he would be a guest at the resort. She said that while she was showing Byrant and two people in his entourage up to their rooms, he pulled her aside and asked her to give him a tour of the hotel.

She said there was "mutual flirting" during the tour, Winter said.

She said Bryant invited her back to his room and she went in and sat on a couch while he sat on a chair nearby. They chatted about tattoos and he asked her to show the tattoo she said she had on her back. She lifted her skirt and showed him. When she thought she was leaving, she asked for his autograph in which he replied that he would give it to her later when she came back to his room.

She said he asked for a hug and she gave him one and then he began kissing her mouth, her neck -- actions she said she agreed to. She said the kissing lasted about 5 minutes. She said he then began to grope her breasts and butt. He began putting his hand under her panties, and she told him that she had to leave.

She said she was trying to leave when Bryant "grabbed her around the neck."

She said that he was trying to block her movement. She said she was afraid and he started to follow her as she moved toward the door. She said that he had both of his hands around her neck and was "controlling her movements."

She said he then bent her over a chair, pulled up skirt and pulled her panties down. She said that she told him that she needed to leave "and at one point, stated no," Winter said.

She said she began crying when the sexual intercourse started and didn't stop until it was over about 5 minutes later. She said the sex was painful.

She said that while the intercourse was occurring he asked if she was going to tell anyone about it. She said no. He asked her to look at him and again confirm that she would not tell anyone. She said she did that because she was afraid. She said when the incident was "about to end" she started prying his hands off her neck, and then she said he stopped.

She said she turned around and pulled up her underwear. He asked her to go clean up in the bathroom. She said before she left Bryant told her she shouldn't tell anyone. She said she then ran down to the front desk and told the bellman everything that had happened.

Winters said that while he was interviewing her, there was another deputy in the interview room as well as a victim's advocate. The interview was videotaped but the videotape was not allowed to be submitted in the preliminary hearing because it was deemed too prejudicial. An audiotape of Kobe Byrant's statement was also pulled from preliminary hearing.

Winter said that before she began telling her story, he told her that if this was a false accusation, that she would be in big trouble. She said that she understood.
67 posted on 10/09/2003 2:49:46 PM PDT by jimbo123
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I don't buy it... the invetigator didn't notice the bruise the night before, but the nurse does the next day?? I am dubious to say the least...and....and... no jury will put Koby in jail with out more evidence.... It is just the way it is.
80 posted on 10/09/2003 3:08:08 PM PDT by Porterville
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Just because a woman does something stupid does not given anyone the right to rape her. The accuser's story rang true and is supported by the nurse's testimony.

Everyone I've heard so far thinks the defense made a big mistake in agreeing to the hearing. A bad day for Kobe.

Incidentally, a couple of months before this incident, Kobe went to see a divorce lawyer.

83 posted on 10/09/2003 3:11:01 PM PDT by Dante3
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He arrived with his lawyers amid tight security in a caravan of three SUVs

That seals it for Kobe
Liberals might excuse rape but THREE SUVs

NEVER
149 posted on 10/09/2003 4:16:09 PM PDT by uncbob ( building tomorrow)
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But I thought sex, rape, groping, extramarital sex was a personal affair, none of our business. Silly girl. Maybe he should have bitten her. This guy deservs what he gets, 20 years or so, just for thinking he had the justification to rape a woman because he wanted to. This super star! Maybe he thinks he is Billy Jeff's equal. Billy boy bubba is still flaunting it. Not likely, though, for the athelete.
197 posted on 10/09/2003 4:59:32 PM PDT by wingnuts'nbolts (VRWC WAR ROOM!!!)
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Was there anal tearing?
230 posted on 10/09/2003 5:25:44 PM PDT by Checkers
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During and after the attack, Winters said, Bryant kept asking, "You are not going to tell anyone, right?" She said she agreed at one point.

They expect anybody to believe that?

248 posted on 10/09/2003 5:36:56 PM PDT by judywillow (the supposed Kr)
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